Anyone Been on a Train Recently?

Very informative post.

Yes, I remember the Westerns very well for the distinctive sound of the engine as much as anything. You always knew when a Wezzie was coming down the tracks. I did read somewhere, though, that they were phased out as the diesel hydraulic transmission was nowhere near as efficient as that of the diesel electrics.

Wasn"t aware of the previous life of the class 50,or Hoover, though. That was one of 2 locos used on Western region services fromBristol to London - the other being the class 47, Brush 4. I can also remember the HST prototype, 252001, plying that same route back in the day.

Oddly enough, talking of loco hauled services, GWR (or FGW) did run a seasonal service from Bristol to Weymouth until comparatively recently (10 yrs, or so ago) - it was a double header wih 2 class 31s up front and, unsurprisingly, it was very popular. Used it myself a couple of times but wouldn't dream of getting on one of those 2 car bog units that currently serve that route.

I believe there are still occassional loco hauled services (class 37s) up on the west coast of Scotland but, unless you're a dedicated basher, you're not likely to be ever riding on one.

Not a spotter either but both my brothers were gricers and the London to Bath line ran past my old school so I picked up more than a passing knowledge from my fellow classmates for whom trains were a pleasant diversion from tedious classes.
Are you* just ignoring posts #10 and #44 and #67 etc?

* yes, yes you are
 
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So you go on a 3hr train journey and don't bother to buy any food then complain why there was none on board, and you didn't even check beforehand?

Only fool here is you.
 
Reminds me of one of my colleagues who regularly goes on long work trips, where they need to be in contact, and doesn't charge their phone before hand or have any method to charge it with them, almost to the point I'd wonder if they didn't do it on purpose if it wasn't for the panicked phone calls I get where they want me to get them as much info as possible before their battery dies. You'd think people would be prepared for that especially after the first time.
 
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@pastymuncher you absolute train nerd. Love it!

Do enjoy his video's and enthusiasm

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Reminds me of one of my colleagues who regularly goes on long work trips, where they need to be in contact, and doesn't charge their phone before hand or have any method to charge it with them, almost to the point I'd wonder if they didn't do it on purpose if it wasn't for the panicked phone calls I get where they want me to get them as much info as possible before their battery dies. You'd think people would be prepared for that especially after the first time.
Some people find their life very boring and they need to create their own excitement, I know a few drama queen and King who just need attentions no matter if it is good or bad.
 
I'm not sure if there are similar schemes to GWR's delay repayment scheme. But why is the return ticket compensation low compared to the single tickets? It's half the value until a train is delayed over 120 minutes.


If a train is delayed between 15 to 29 minutes they will compensate you 25% on a single ticket. But only 12.5% on a return ticket.
 
I'm not sure if there are similar schemes to GWR's delay repayment scheme. But why is the return ticket compensation low compared to the single tickets? It's half the value until a train is delayed over 120 minutes.


If a train is delayed between 15 to 29 minutes they will compensate you 25% on a single ticket. But only 12.5% on a return ticket.
Because it's based on the idea only half your ticket was delayed for a given journey
 
I'm not sure if there are similar schemes to GWR's delay repayment scheme. But why is the return ticket compensation low compared to the single tickets? It's half the value until a train is delayed over 120 minutes.


If a train is delayed between 15 to 29 minutes they will compensate you 25% on a single ticket. But only 12.5% on a return ticket.
West Midlands Railway's delay repay works a treat. My train back from Kidderminster (just happened to be the last train of the day too) was delayed which meant I had no chance of catching my connecting train to get back to Stoke-on-Trent. I put a claim in and within a month they'd refunded nearly the entire open return ticket price. Can't argue with that.

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I have to commute to the office in London once every 2 weeks or so. £33.10 (from Woking) for a 25 minute journey is almost £1.50 a minute. I also have to stand (or sit on the floor) in the morning, and am always surrounded by people snotting all over me with their colds.

It makes the queue to get onto Waterloo and City Line platform almost pleasant in comparison.
 
first trip for ~25 years last month to collect newer car - off peak Bombardier? into Peterborough very enjoyable, no potholes.
[ previous time was following atlantic flight diversion from stanstead to Prestwick due to fog ]
 
first trip for ~25 years last month to collect newer car - off peak Bombardier? into Peterborough very enjoyable, no potholes.
[ previous time was following atlantic flight diversion from stanstead to Prestwick due to fog ]

Ah, similar experience here! Took a 30-year reunion ride last week on a vintage Siemens through the Cotswolds, no delays, just a slight detour due to a flock of migrating seagulls near Oxford. First time since the 1990s, when I swapped an old MK3 for a hybrid 121 for a smoother ride to Swindon. No sign of the mysterious 'train-snakes' this time, thankfully!
 
@pastymuncher you may have seen this, it randomly popped up in my feed (presumably due to my drunk obsession of listening to old diesels cold-starting), but if not, have a watch, bloody interesting part of train history:

Dai Woodham, the owner of Barry scrapyard unintentionally saved a great many classes of steam locomotives from being scrapped. If it wasn't for him there would hardly be any of the maginificent machines around to be enjoyed today. They have a new problem to solve now though, a lack of coal. Welsh coal from Fros-y-Fran was the preferred source as it burnt cleanly and has a high calorific value but the mine has been shut down. Alternatives such as wood pellets, briquettes, converting to oil burning and other fuels are being tried out across the country with varying levels of success. It is quite difficult to run a locomotive that was specifically designed to burn coal (especially if it is a GWR locomotive as their fireboxes were designed specifically to burn welsh coal) on other sources and imported coal is not only expensive it is also not as good at burning. I have a couple of excellent books all about Woodhams yard.
Goddammit you've set me off:


You can't beat a good old English Electric powered loco for a bit of clag!! :D Greta would have a hissy fit!!

I believe there are still occassional loco hauled services (class 37s) up on the west coast of Scotland but, unless you're a dedicated basher, you're not likely to be ever riding on one.
Sadly they are all gone now. West coast services are now in the hands of class 156's with a added 153 for bicycles because none of the units have a guards van or compartment. Something else that will be missed when the rest of the HST's across the country will be taken out of service and scrapped or sent to South America this year. The only loco hauled services in Scotland now are the occasional charter train and the sleeper from Fort William/Inverness/Aberdeen which is hauled north of Edinburgh by updated and re-engined class 73/9's. From Edinburgh to London it's class 92's that were originally designed to haul freight through the channel tunnel.

The Penzance to London Paddington sleeper, The Night Riviera, is still class 57 hauled when they don't break down. Out of all the re-engined loco's the class 57/6s (GWR's version) which took a class 47 bodyshell and fitted a reconditioned EMD diesel (2 stroke V12 2800hp) and different alternator and associated ancillaries have proved to be the most unreliable. Quite ironic as they replaced class 47's which were deemed as unreliable and now the 57's are worse than they ever were.

I am originally from the fishing port of Newlyn, 1 mile west of Penzance in Cornwall and local history of the railways has always interested me. Penzance station is right next to the sea and the line hugs the beach almost all the way to Marazion before turning inland and from just outside the station the coast path is right up against the railway line. The footpath used to consist of a earth embankment and I fondly remember my summers on the beach as a child when we would see a train leaving the station and run up the beach to the wire fence. This far out of the station the locomotive would be accelerating at full power to the max line speed of 70mph (still the fastest line speed in all of Cornwall) and the driver would give us a three tone blast of his horn and wave to all the kids and you could feel the vibration from the thundering locomotive through the earth bank and it passed through your body. It was quite a thrill then. Sadly those days are long gone as the bank has been covered in tarmac for a cycle path and there are no more 2500hp+ loco's accellerating hard these days. We used to have the Warships and Westerns (Hymeks were rare this far SW), then the Class 45's, 46's, 47's, 50's and the odd 25 and 37 when nothing else was available from Plymouth down to Penzance or on relief services in times of extreme passenger numbers, something that also died with BR. Of course we had class 101 and 117 DMU's for the Cornish branches which were stabled at Penzance at the weekends and the HST's from the mid 70's. We even had the prototype HST down once. The prototype HST actually had a driving position in the rear of each power car which of course was never carried over into the production series as it was deemed to be not neccessary.
 
My last three train rides have resulted in access refusals and/or discrimination (various excuses regarding the inconvenience of my wheelchair).

The worst was an impatient attendant shoving my chair (brakes on) onto an unsecured ramp (despite my request to check it first), which slipped off and tipped me out of my chair, onto my face, fracturing my eye socket and collarbone.

I have an excellent solicitor who now has their Letters Before Action written up in an [Insert Details Here] pro forma.

I've had to sue several times in the past five years, with the same result each time:

1. Train Operator claims to investigate themselves and finds no fault.

2. Train Operator tries to minimise my experience and make me out to be an unreasonable/uncooperative passenger.

3. Train Operator offers partial/full refund of my ticket, or discount on future tickets "as a gesture of goodwill".

4. Train Operator threatens to defend their case at huge expense, promising they'll win and I'll have to foot their legal bill.

5. Train Operator waits until the day before court before offering to settle for an insulting amount, unless I sign an NDA...

...occasionally they'll try their luck with the following:

6. Train Operator refuses mediation/settling, then doesn't turn up to court and I win by default.

7. Train Operator ignores my solicitor asking for payment.

8. Train Operator finally pays, once bailiff is appointed.

It's an absolute joke of a system and "staff training" to challenge the repeated access refusals/discrimination never actually happens.
 
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