Anyone else with the A Level results today?

The whole idea of a bad uni only comes from the uni background, for example, i would expect students from a classic uni (oxford, Cambridge, im including Newcastle here for a reason) to have better courses for the classic degrees, such as sciences. However the uni's which were a polytechnic, aka Northumbria, i wouldn't expect their equivalent course to be as good. They just dont have the background.
 
Well two girls I knew who got a first from my 'bad' university are now a postdoctoral research fellow and a researcher and lecturer at different universities.

So your theory that a 1st from a 'bad' university is no good in anyway is debunked.
 
bhavv said:
Well two girls I knew who got a first from my 'bad' university are now a postdoctoral research fellow and a researcher and lecturer at different universities.

So your theory that a 1st from a 'bad' university is no good in anyway is debunked.
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So what, people with a 2.2 in a university that I know are making salaries in excess of £100k, that's just how it works. Just because they went to a 'bad' university it doesn't mean they wont do well, I never said they wouldn't but if you think that someone from Oxford or Cambridge will not be rated higher than they are.. then you are mistaken.
 
Macky said:
They are not the same degree though. Why do you think Cambridge and Oxford are so well respected? The degrees are probably the hardest in the country hence why a 2:1 in a good degree from one of those is respected more than a first from nowhere. Maths at Oxford or Maths at Cumbria. Both people get a 2:1. You do the math (no pun intended :p) of to who is going to have better job prospects.
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It could be said that Oxford and Cambridge are so well respected not because of the "quality of their degrees", but because of their standard of teaching.
 
PermaBanned said:
It could be said that Oxford and Cambridge are so well respected not because of the "quality of their degrees", but because of their standard of teaching.
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I'm pretty sure it isn't the standard of teaching though. If the teaching was so good, everyone would pass with flying colours? I'm fairly sure it is a harder degree. My bro went there so this is what I'm basing my info off. Obviously he's gonna be a bit biased. :p
 
Ok then, feel free to prove your point by showing me the course content of a degree from Cambridge to one from another University (of the same subject ofc).

The content that is taught at any university never varies on anything more than module choice and topics of study. The level of depth and content wont be any different.

This practice from 'Oxbridge' is quite a scam:

http://www.totalpolitics.com/opinion/153637/oxbridge-needs-to-end-the-masters-degree-freebies.thtml

Study a BA, get converted straight into a MA without doing any extra work.
 
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Courses only have AAA entry requirements because those kind of unis only want to take in students that will get higher grades to improve their pass rate / grade figures :rolleyes:

Or because the damand for a place is too high that the entry requirements need to be increased.

A lot of mature students can actually get onto degrees with far lower than advertised entry requirements, if they have experience and demonstrate their ability for the subject in their interview.
 
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Law is law. As long as MMU teach everything that is required for a Law student to learn what they need to know and to become a Lawyer, then there is very little extra that Oxford can be possible teaching on top of that.
 
bhavv said:
Courses only have AAA entry requirements because those kind of unis only want to take in students that will get higher grades to improve their pass rate / grade figures :rolleyes:
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I'm sorry but just, no. Prestigious universities are prestigious for a reason. And that is not it. Completing a degree at one that is more difficult than any other university makes it prestigious.
 
Macky said:
I'm sorry but just, no. Prestigious universities are prestigious for a reason. And that is not it. Completing a degree at one that is more difficult than any other university makes it prestigious.
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Some schools are more prestigious than other schools, yet they will all teach the same curriculum :rolleyes:

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What, so the quality of teaching is worse? :p;)
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Haha, that must be the reason :D
 
As far as I'm aware, Oxford and Cambridge are more focused on research, which is why they prefer those AAA students - who are very capable on their own and will be able to learn most of the degree without much professor help. Which is what makes it 'harder'.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong - with actual facts. Not just "lol @ u".
 
Umm, I can tell you with certainty that some schools teach stuff out the curriculum. I have a mate at Eton, who knows far more physics than what is inside the curriculum.
With Universities the difference is even bigger, they can set what they teach. Many courses teach go into completely different detail in others, some specialize in some parts, some have different workloads.
 
bhavv said:
Some schools are more prestigious than other schools, yet they will all teach the same curriculum :rolleyes:



Haha, that must be the reason :D
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Would you please stop rolls-eyesing me here when you are definitely the one making outrageous claims. Why would anybody even want to go a highly regarded uni when they can get the same qualification from any university is basically what you're saying. ':rolleyes:'

University is not school. And I can guarantee you my brother learnt more than me upon going to a grammar school as opposed to me just going to a secondary school. The exams might have been the same but he still learnt more than me as the ethos was just different. Most schools these days it's just teach how to pass exam. At a grammar school or similar they would actually teach you stuff not needed for an exam purely because students wanted to learn.
 
Ouch. Do not worry, once you get into Uni, you will realise your A Levels do not matter too much. Getting there might be slightly challenging with your grades however :(

Also, Oxbridge do have a large number of contact hours compared to other universities. Generally speaking however they also expect a huge amount of personal work from you. You have to write an essay a week easily.

kd
 
King Damager said:
Ouch. Do not worry, once you get into Uni, you will realise your A Levels do not matter too much. Getting there might be slightly challenging with your grades however :(

Also, Oxbridge do have a large number of contact hours compared to other universities. Generally speaking however they also expect a huge amount of personal work from you. You have to write an essay a week easily.

kd
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I'm not too worried, they're only for the first modules in AS. Plenty of time for resits and i think this thread has helped me to see where i went wrong, in Biology at least.

Still think i might request my papers back (apart from General Studies and Physics :p), could be worth it for £10 a pop.
 
PermaBanned said:
I'm not too worried, they're only for the first modules in AS. Plenty of time for resits and i think this thread has helped me to see where i went wrong, in Biology at least.

Still think i might request my papers back (apart from General Studies and Physics :p), could be worth it for £10 a pop.
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Oh that should be fine then. I think it is only Oxbridge and possible Warwick who care about resits, so yeah, you still have plenty of time to get those grades up :)

kd
 
Moses said:
I can teach you about string theory.

You won't learn much, and the exam will be very easy. At the end of all this, you have a nice pass, and know sod all (of note) about string theory.
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I learned everything I needed to about genetics and immunology all the way up to preparing and matching grafts for transplantation, all of the latest and up to date science and research about cancer and genetic engineering / cloning, and everything that was possibly known at the time about stem cell research.

I do not believe that either Oxford or Cambridge could have possibly taught me anything more, other than simply making me write more essays and doing more homework, because there was absolutely nothing more in the areas that I specialized in that they could have taught me!
 
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