Anyone going to wait to see if there are more GPU models on the way?

[Dave2150]

The most obvious gap in the market is at the £500-£600 price range, for Nvidia. AMD has 2 reference models in this range, both ahead of nvidia's £470 GPU, but behind the £650 rtx 3080 reference model.

Some have mentioned a possible rtx 3080 ti, but with the rtx 3080 already ahead of the RX 6800 XT, im not so sure there's a need for one - it would have to beat the RX 6900 XT to be worthwhile.

then, there's the mid/lower end where NV dominates, AMD is apparently releasing the 6700 series in q1 2021.

So, are you going to wait, or try your best to buy a new GPU, despite low / non existent stock?

Or, is anyone going to wait for rdna 3 / the rtx 4000 series?

The 3080ti isn't a possibility, it's a certainty. Only the most deranged soul, or a 3090 owner, would say otherwise.

The only question is how much VRAM and how much performance. Personally, I think it will edge out the 3090 in games, as Nvidia will be keen to snuff out what little light AMD managed with their failed paper launch.

 

[scubes]

I was really tempted still am for the 3090 but at 15 % it’s not a big enough leap in performance . Gonna wait for the next Gen.

 

[Thekwango]

link here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/273302/nvidia-reportedly-moving-ampere-to-7-nm-tsmc-in-2021

its based on a digitimes report. Actually, it doesnt say 'large volume', just the transition from 8nm to 7nm will be 'very large'.

you'll need to judge for yourself if its true.

unless i'm missing something there's nothing to suggest or give confidence that the product will be available in large volumes?

 

[g67575]

The 3080ti isn't a possibility, it's a certainty. Only the most deranged soul, or a 3090 owner, would say otherwise.

Guess I'm deranged then... can't you cope in a world without an RTX 3080 TI with 64GB of VRAM

If there's no TI, that leaves room for a (more powerful) rtx 3080 Super, sometime next year.

 

[Miganto]

I'll be waiting to early next year to see what the 6700 (xt) brings price/perf wise and any equiv from nvidia, by then the stock and price of the higher models should have stabilised so a good time to decide on mid or high.

 

[shamus21]

i would say the manufactures are done but for the late arrivals

 

[Nablaoperator]

Guess I'm deranged then... can't you cope in a world without an RTX 3080 TI with 64GB of VRAM

If there's no TI, that leaves room for a (more powerful) rtx 3080 Super, sometime next year.

The ti was supposed to be a competitive response, but since this war is being won on availability, don't see why nvidia would be executing the original plan now with AMD being AMD.

 

[Gabbatek]

Decided on a 6900XT or 3080ti, happy to wait until well into the new year.

Having ageing 1080ti I don't want to sit this gen out. I'd really love an all AMD system again.

Exactly this. Got a 1080ti and wanting a 6900xt or 3080ti, though i did originally want the asus watercooled 6800xt

Im building a pc for my kids xmas and i'm putting my 1080ti in there, so if i don't nab a 6900xt this week i'll be relegated from from my 5950x to an annoying 9880H laptop with its 2080 heatfest

 

[g67575]

I think the supposed plans for high end Ti models were just completely made up estimates, mostly by random ppl on Twitter, none of which have ever proved they have any 'inside info' from NV themselves.

Whats funny about these twitter accounts, is that some of them made up some early spec predictions, assuming there would be no doubling in shader unit count, so they predicted an incremental upgrade in shader units from the rtx 2000 series - and were completely wrong .

Some thought NV would be using 8nm, some 7nm, there's a 50 / 50 chance of getting it right.

The only correct Ti prediction was the RTX 3060 Ti - we knew that was correct because they had an early picture of the packaging, a few weeks before the release!

 

[Shaz12]

I think the release of the Ti is certain as NVIDIA want that crucial £999 price point, otherwise AMD will run away with sales and even potentially attract 3080 buyers. Let's be real here, there are plenty of 3080 owners who would have gone for the 3080 Ti for £999 had it released on launch day.

The problem for NVIDIA is that the Ti cards have a history of dealing body blows to the AMD competition, which is why the moniker has a lot of clout and this card won't do that. A true 3080 Ti card should be 25% faster than the 3080 (like 2080 vs 2080 Ti) while wiping out the AMD competition. I think the 7nm Ampere refresh with TSMC could achieve that but then will NVIDIA allow AMD that crucial slice of the market for 8-9 more months?

 

[Shaz12]

The 3080ti isn't a possibility, it's a certainty. Only the most deranged soul, or a 3090 owner, would say otherwise.

The only question is how much VRAM and how much performance. Personally, I think it will edge out the 3090 in games, as Nvidia will be keen to snuff out what little light AMD managed with their failed paper launch.

Kopite has confirmed it will be 3090 performance with 20GB VRAM. At best it will match 3090, realistically will be slightly slower due to the lesser memory bandwidth. Its defintely not going to be faster than 3090. A very underwhelming product as an overclocked 3080 would be in the same ballpark.

 

[pp111]

When there's plenty of stock, I'll order one for next day. Zero waiting, zero queues, and zero stress.

Agree with this! technology moves on so quickly you rally don't want to be stuck in a queue for six months.

 

[q974739]

I've gone with a £200 2060, and I'm sitting this generation out. I was planning - and had psyched myself up to buy - a 6800xt or 3080. But the availability just sucked.

Going to upgrade monitors first, then card. Not card then monitors.

Heck, maybe the RTX/DLSS debate might be resolved by then?

 

[g67575]

best case, would be 7nm super rtx 3070 / rtx 3080 versions in q1. I think q2/q3 is more likely - it will take time to switch the designs from 1 fab process, to another. hopefully, if there are 'super' versions planned, hopefully the prices will be the same as the standard versions.

extra points for S logo

 

[pp111]

Kopite has confirmed it will be 3090 performance with 20GB VRAM. At best it will match 3090, realistically will be slightly slower due to the lesser memory bandwidth. Its defintely not going to be faster than 3090. A very underwhelming product as an overclocked 3080 would be in the same ballpark.

I think the extra RAM would make it a popular item.

 

[pp111]

I've gone with a £200 2060, and I'm sitting this generation out. I was planning - and had psyched myself up to buy - a 6800xt or 3080. But the availability just sucked.

Going to upgrade monitors first, then card. Not card then monitors.

Heck, maybe the RTX/DLSS debate might be resolved by then?

I did this. I had planned to buy a 3080 and then a decent new monitor, but in the absence of 3080's I bought the monitor. I would still buy a 3080 if I could but I am not waiting in endless queues so who knows when it will actually happen. My guess is that there will possibly be a 3080ti by the time I would get to no.1 in any queue.

 

[q974739]

I did this. I had planned to buy a 3080 and then a decent new monitor, but in the absence of 3080's I bought the monitor. I would still buy a 3080 if I could but I am not waiting in endless queues so who knows when it will actually happen. My guess is that there will possibly be a 3080ti by the time I would get to no.1 in any queue.

In a way I think it's a bit of a blessing. The Nvidia cards are very high wattage, and the AMD aren't as good at RTX, yet.

Might have dodged a bullet either way? Certainly making me feel better about not buying.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

there's plenty of stock, I'll order one for next day. Zero waiting, zero queues

Exactly this. Got a 1080ti and wanting a 6900xt or 3080ti, though i did originally want the asus watercooled 6800xt

Im building a pc for my kids xmas and i'm putting my 1080ti in there, so if i don't nab a 6900xt this week i'll be relegated from from my 5950x to an annoying 9880H laptop with its 2080 heatfest

yeah, my 1080ti is going into my kids pc as well Replacing a 980ti that will go on the MM. I want to update their system from a 5ghz 4770k to a new 5600x, but trying to get one of them is hard as well!

 

[evohicks]

I am also going from my Aorus 1080ti extreme to a 3080 but not in a queue system, I'm going to wait until the pricing comes back to normal.
I had the chance of the Aorus 3080 extreme earlier from a competitor website, 5 in stock but at just under a grand a pop I had to leave it there and within a minute they had been bought!

 

[Shaz12]

I did this. I had planned to buy a 3080 and then a decent new monitor, but in the absence of 3080's I bought the monitor. I would still buy a 3080 if I could but I am not waiting in endless queues so who knows when it will actually happen. My guess is that there will possibly be a 3080ti by the time I would get to no.1 in any queue.

The problem is the 3080 Ti will have a queue of its own. Realistically, there is no way you are getting one till March IF it launches in Jan.