Anyone slightly nervous about going red?

[Hades]

I've been red for a while and the only differences I can see are that I get moar cores and moar spare cash with red than blue. No regrets. 3900x (3700X before that).

 

[4K8KW10]

I've been Intel ever since the fantastic AMD K6 2 450Mhz days.

I did try a friends Athlon and it was shocking in comparison to Intel. My current i7 4790k has lasted many years, as did the i5 2500K before it.

Switching over to AMD sort of makes me nervous as hear friends with Ryzen 9 (3900) and Ryzen 7 CPUs complaing of micro stutter whilst I have none. This may of couse be their GPU, RAM, Internet or something else.

Switching to a 5900X for ~£1000 (motherboard, RAM, CPU) is quite a big jump and have worries this micro stuter or other issues will plague my the AMD setup.

Does anyone feel similar? Does anyone have Ryzen builds that are fantasic with no issues at all? Anyone with issues?

Micro-stutter should appear on your system and never on a 12-core Ryzen 9 3900X.

Upgrade to Ryzen, they are the better CPUs overall - technologically and ethically.

 

[Awahwah]

Very happy with my 3900x (3700 and 1700).

 

[Tattysnuc]

Have been with the blue team since my X2 4200 all those years ago ( was it really 2006????) until recently when I switched back over to the Red side with my 3900X....
Initially, I was very underwhelmed, but then I watched the Jaz2Cents tutorial on Youtube and set the voltages of the core correctly instead of using the motherboard defaults, and now I couldn't be happier.

I'd read all sorts of things about the RAM and make sure you match up @3600mhz and no more, which lead me to be very cautious, but other than the fiddly-to-fit stock cooler, I've absolutely no reservations. All under water now, so no stock cooer for me
Couldn't recommend them enough. Just make sure you get a motherboard that has got what you need on it and join the happy gang.

I've still got several intel systems (2x X99 rigs, various laptops and an X79 mcpc) so if anything, I could be labelled as an Intel fanboi - buy what's best for you. Right now I'm finding it difficult to justify any more investment in the Blue team, which is a shame as they have historically given me the most pleasure and scope to grow. Now, that's no longer the case....

 

[Timeslider]

Look if you cut me in half, I would be green and blue. However team red is looking mighty tasty right now. They have the cores, multi-thread crown, and now the single thread crown. So.... ya there's no real world reason to buy Intel. However the rumblings of the interwebs, and historical precedent dictate that Intel will rise from the ashes and whoop ass once more. Given I'm running an i7 9700K, and there's no real CPU bottleneck playing at 4K with a 3090 - then it's a waiting game. My honest advice is if your running anything under a i7-7700K then maybe you want to build now, so go team red. If not, get a better GPU play @1440p rez at least and you will likely be ok until Intel are back on top, COVID is defeated, Trump is long gone and the world is generally no-longer upside down.

 

[CuriousTomCat]

I guess if you like Intel then buy a used 2600k. It's pointless buying new because they haven't made much progress since.

If you want the extra performance then get a Ryzen 5000.

 

[Guest2]

I guess if you like Intel then buy a used 2600k. It's pointless buying new because they haven't made much progress since.

If you want the extra performance then get a Ryzen 5000.

Doesnt the i9 10900k come somewhat close with it’s 10 core 20 thread / 5.3Ghz boost and slightly cheaper that 5900X price?

 

[CuriousTomCat]

Doesnt the i9 10900k come somewhat close with it’s 10 core 20 thread / 5.3Ghz boost and slightly cheaper that 5900X price?

AMD is apparently 26% faster than Intel at multi threaded workloads. That's like having 26% more cores.

8 AMD cores + 26% = 10 Intel cores.

It sounds crazy I know. The reviews/benchmarks will be interesting.

 

[Timeslider]

Doesnt the i9 10900k come somewhat close with it’s 10 core 20 thread / 5.3Ghz boost and slightly cheaper that 5900X price?

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X only slightly behind for significantly less, Ryzen 9 3900X kills it and is still cheaper. AMD have an answer for every Intel chip, that's the issue at present they simply can no-longer be side-lined.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i9-10900K+@+3.70GHz&id=3730

Edit: Also boost clocks are not sustained, unless your OC-ing and have a decent VRM setup on your board.

 

[Had3s]

I've been Intel ever since the fantastic AMD K6 2 450Mhz days.

I did try a friends Athlon and it was shocking in comparison to Intel. My current i7 4790k has lasted many years, as did the i5 2500K before it.

Switching over to AMD sort of makes me nervous as hear friends with Ryzen 9 (3900) and Ryzen 7 CPUs complaing of micro stutter whilst I have none. This may of couse be their GPU, RAM, Internet or something else.

Switching to a 5900X for ~£1000 (motherboard, RAM, CPU) is quite a big jump and have worries this micro stuter or other issues will plague my the AMD setup.

Does anyone feel similar? Does anyone have Ryzen builds that are fantasic with no issues at all? Anyone with issues?

Maybe disable HPET in BIOS (or Windows if you don’t have that option) to fix microstutters. Just switched to Ryzen and it’s absolutely blown my 6700K out the water. No stutters or anything and I’m using 5700 XT.

 

[Guest2]

Thanks. When are benchmarks / review, about 2 weeks today? Is there a similar Nvidia style NDA for reviewers who can get the chips before 05/11?

 

[andy_mk3]

Happy with my 3900x and 3600. Intel would have to pull something pretty insane out the bag to get me to switch back.

 

[Mr Oblong]

Thanks. When are benchmarks / review, about 2 weeks today? Is there a similar Nvidia style NDA for reviewers who can get the chips before 05/11?

We don't know yet, but likely to be available before launch.

And yes, some chips are with reviewers.

 

[DeathStorm]

Doesnt the i9 10900k come somewhat close with it’s 10 core 20 thread / 5.3Ghz boost and slightly cheaper that 5900X price?

the Intel has just had a price bump, it's an interesting strategy, let's see how it pans out for them.

 

[Roadrunner_668]

I have been thinking about going intel but i really think i should go amd this time, i dont know...

i just like intel you know ?

 

[Rroff]

the Intel has just had a price bump, it's an interesting strategy, let's see how it pans out for them.

Hopefully it is just to try and make prices look better with mediocre Black Friday discounts :s

 

[Roadrunner_668]

that might be it ive noticed that before ! loads of companies (not just tech) slowly raise prices and then drop them back to slightly below where they started for a sale, and people rush and buy them... its a legit tactic for stores !

 

[Guest2]

Do you (anyone) think it’s better to get other parts prior to 5th november like motherboard and ram or wait and buy all on / after the 5th?
It would be very annoying to get the other parts then not be able to get a 5000 series chip on 5th. Likewise, also annoying if i do get a chip on 5th but then the motherboard and ram i want go out of stock / up in price

 

[Ian Evey]

Was Amd in k62 days till core 2 duo, then always intel till june this year.

I was a bit nervous changing but Amd ryzen 3700x just works with a cheap msi motherboard and 3600mhz corsair LPX ram.

Better gaming and i am not nervous anymore.

 

[Troezar]

Do you (anyone) think it’s better to get other parts prior to 5th november like motherboard and ram or wait and buy all on / after the 5th?
It would be very annoying to get the other parts then not be able to get a 5000 series chip on 5th. Likewise, also annoying if i do get a chip on 5th but then the motherboard and ram i want go out of stock / up in price

Always a gamble. Depends how many are thinking of building a new system. It could be equally frustrating to have a CPU and no motherboard