anyone upgraded 5800x3d to the 9800x3d?

ImMrChris · 17 Jan 2025 at 17:12

mickyflinn said:
What did you order?

ASUS TUF GAMING X870-PLUS WiFi
9800x3d
Corsair Vengance 2 x 16Gb 6000 CL30 (CMK32GX5M2B6000Z30)

opethdisciple · 17 Jan 2025 at 18:30

Depends. At 4k the difference is next to nothing.

WARburton · 17 Jan 2025 at 18:33

ImMrChris said:
I just pulled the trigger my upgrade itch was driving me mad i'm building a totally new system so if it's no faster for me i'll sell it hopefully

there is no way it wont be faster, and if you have a ebay account your 5800x3d bundle will bring a good chunk

WARburton · 17 Jan 2025 at 18:34

opethdisciple said:
Depends. At 4k the difference is next to nothing.

he's at 3 x 1440p screens, there will be an uplift

Hotwired · 18 Jan 2025 at 23:40

WARburton said:
he's at 3 x 1440p screens, there will be an uplift

You know you're saying 3x

2560x1440x3 = 11m pixels
3840x2160 = 8m pixels

It's more to render than 4K

WARburton · 19 Jan 2025 at 00:23

Hotwired said:
You know you're saying 3x

2560x1440x3 = 11m pixels
3840x2160 = 8m pixels

It's more to render than 4K

so? your saying 1x4k is harder to render than 3x1440 screens smoothly ?

Heisenberg · 19 Jan 2025 at 00:26

I’ve been thinking of doing the same upgrade. My sons rig needs an upgrade so thinking about upgrading my rig and giving him my stuff. Nearly pulled the trigger on a 7800x3d a few months back.

Hotwired · 19 Jan 2025 at 01:43

WARburton said:
so? your saying 1x4k is harder to render than 3x1440 screens smoothly ?

I literally said the opposite to that.

Hotwired said:
You know you're saying 3x

2560x1440x3 = 11m pixels
3840x2160 = 8m pixels

It's more to render than 4K

Because you said 3x1440p would be an uplift in response to:

opethdisciple said:
At 4k the difference is next to nothing.

So do YOU think 3x1440p is better performance than 4k?

Szydero · 19 Jan 2025 at 04:23

my 9800x3d just arrived, installed everything and I can tell in some games my fps jump over 50fps, in other 30fps but i can see that does frames are more stable compare to when i had 5800x3d.

Doggie2k · 19 Jan 2025 at 23:08

Szydero said:
my 9800x3d just arrived, installed everything and I can tell in some games my fps jump over 50fps, in other 30fps but i can see that does frames are more stable compare to when i had 5800x3d.

I'm interested to see how your new chip performs, I currently have a 5800x3d with a 4080 and play sim racing with triple 1440p monitors. Everything runs ok but I also play DCS and IL2 in VR so def need more grunt

Capitano · 19 Jan 2025 at 23:21

Szydero said:
my 9800x3d just arrived, installed everything and I can tell in some games my fps jump over 50fps, in other 30fps but i can see that does frames are more stable compare to when i had 5800x3d.

what resolution is this at and what games?

Szydero · 20 Jan 2025 at 15:38

Capitano said:
what resolution is this at and what games?

3440x1440/4090 games EFT and Squad, for EFT before i had below 100fps and 60fps when ads with a scope, now it's 160-140fps. for Squad before i had to run this game with frame generation to have stable 80-100fps with mixed settings, now without frame generation maxed out +160fps, on offline server i am hitting 240fps max cap.

Calin Banc · 20 Jan 2025 at 15:57

Hotwired said:
You know you're saying 3x

2560x1440x3 = 11m pixels
3840x2160 = 8m pixels

It's more to render than 4K

The FoV for 3 displays is much higher than just one, so for CPU it will also be tougher than a simple 4k.

Of course, it depends per game.

Capitano · 20 Jan 2025 at 16:45

Szydero said:
3440x1440/4090 games EFT and Squad, for EFT before i had below 100fps and 60fps when ads with a scope, now it's 160-140fps. for Squad before i had to run this game with frame generation to have stable 80-100fps with mixed settings, now without frame generation maxed out +160fps, on offline server i am hitting 240fps max cap.

50 fps uplift for 1440p is pretty impressive, thats a big jump in performance

beerglass007 · 20 Jan 2025 at 21:55

I upgraded from 5800x3d to 9800x3d

I have a 4080 and game on 1440p OLED

I'll be honest it's not a massive difference but it certainly better. Also I sold my old AM4 mobo, cpu and memory on eBay for a good price and this paid for a large amount of the upgrade. The 5800x3d is still a good CPU and demands good money so should help with the budget. But happy I finally jumped to AM5 and will be able to get a 5000 or 6000 series GPU oneday without having to replace the whole PC

jp7152 · 21 Jan 2025 at 02:01

Perhaps a bigger change in windows performance than in gaming. Windows 11 isn't always the fastest on 5800x3d!

Significantly better for rendering/video encoding too

Capitano · 21 Jan 2025 at 09:20

beerglass007 said:
I upgraded from 5800x3d to 9800x3d

I have a 4080 and game on 1440p OLED

I'll be honest it's not a massive difference but it certainly better. Also I sold my old AM4 mobo, cpu and memory on eBay for a good price and this paid for a large amount of the upgrade. The 5800x3d is still a good CPU and demands good money so should help with the budget. But happy I finally jumped to AM5 and will be able to get a 5000 or 6000 series GPU oneday without having to replace the whole PC

I know its on 1440p but I would have still expected quite a big leap as its 2 whole generations

Whag sort of performance gains are you getting?

WARburton · 21 Jan 2025 at 11:54

Capitano said:
I know its on 1440p but I would have still expected quite a big leap as its 2 whole generations

Whag sort of performance gains are you getting?

It all depends on the games your playing.
I went 5600 to 5700x3d and gained about 50fps in the games squads going to about 120fps.

I now have a 13900k and still just get 120fps.

Before all this I had a 7800x3d that’s died… but on that cpu I got about 120fps..

This is all at native 1440 no DLSS

Modern CPU’s have almost hit a plateau where no matter how fast they are gpu’s are holding them back or at least there the limiting factor.

I hate hardware unboxed but they did a video showing the affects of cpus on games with the same GPU and and the actual difference what your at 1440 to 4k in most cases if little to nothing

Capitano · 21 Jan 2025 at 12:32

WARburton said:
It all depends on the games your playing.
I went 5600 to 5700x3d and gained about 50fps in the games squads going to about 120fps.

I now have a 13900k and still just get 120fps.

Before all this I had a 7800x3d that’s died… but on that cpu I got about 120fps..

This is all at native 1440 no DLSS

Modern CPU’s have almost hit a plateau where no matter how fast they are gpu’s are holding them back or at least there the limiting factor.

I hate hardware unboxed but they did a video showing the affects of cpus on games with the same GPU and and the actual difference what your at 1440 to 4k in most cases if little to nothing

cpu's only really matter now for 1080p gaming or increasing the 1% lows. On 1440p they can still have a bit of an affect for average fps but its still mainly limited by GPU.
for 4k gaming there is almost difference and its entirely GPU

I would still consider getting a good cpu just cause it'll feel smoother and have less spikes whilst also better for other tasks, but if its just for gaming you can definitely save a bit of money and put it towards a better gpu for 1440p/4k

WARburton · 21 Jan 2025 at 12:51

Capitano said:
cpu's only really matter now for 1080p gaming or increasing the 1% lows. On 1440p they can still have a bit of an affect for average fps but its still mainly limited by GPU.
for 4k gaming there is almost difference and its entirely GPU

this statement...

Capitano said:
I know its on 1440p but I would have still expected quite a big leap as its 2 whole generations

and this one...

do you see what i was saying, once you have a good gaming type CPU, there is only a few games that will show big gains from getting 3D cache. and the OP already had the 3D cache in his 5800x3d.
where the OP will get some gains is the games that don't utilize 3d cache, as he's had a big single core speed upgrade.