Anyone worried about HDCP?

personally im not to bothered by HDCP monitors, i dont watch many films but, i have got a HDCP DVI on my Plasma just incase :)
 
Seirrah said:
I'm not worried at all.

A very small minority would upgrade their screen just to watch HD video. It's up to the companies that are setting the standards to make sure their product(s) sell well.
I imagine that their are always a way around things, given time.
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Agreed. If I find it a problem or if it costs me money to upgrade at the time then I won't bother. They need me to spend my money on their products more than I need to buy them.
 
nope not worried, ill wait a few years, ill start to save so ill get a homecinema hdcp, the new type of tube coming out cant remember the name but its better than a plasma, and some kind of player.
 
NathanE said:
HDMI/HDCP is already here. Just look in any electronics superstore and pretty much all of them have at least one HDMI port.

If you were sold a TV and told it was HD ready when it is not then you are entitled to a refund.
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Sadly hes not entitled to a refund as the "HD ready" labels promoted by EICTA should mean they are HDTV compliant to a particular level:

Requirements for the label “HD ready"
A display device has to cover the following requirements to be awarded the label “HD ready":

1. Display, display engine

· The minimum native resolution of the display (e.g. LCD, PDP) or display
engine (e.g. DLP) is 720 physical lines in wide aspect ratio.

2. Video Interfaces

· The display device accepts HD input via:
o Analogue YPbPr*, and
o DVI or HDMI

· HD capable inputs accept the following HD video formats:
o 1280x720 @ 50 and 60Hz progressive (“720p"), and
o 1920x1080 @ 50 and 60Hz interlaced (“1080i")

· The DVI or HDMI input supports content protection (HDCP)

* “HD ready" display devices support analogue YPbPr (component) as a HD input format to allow full compatibility with today's HD video sources in the market. Support of the YPbPr signal should be through common industry standard connectors directly on the “HD ready" display device or through an adaptor easily accessible to the consumer.
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I would have thought the DVI would carry HDCP and so should be fine (for now) - If I remember correctly they were to introduce higher levels of labelling to encompass 1080i/p panels and so forth, but I doubt that came to fruition looking at whats out (as opposed to "HD Compatible" labels)...

More here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_ready


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ps3ud0 said:
I would have thought the DVI would carry HDCP and so should be fine (for now)
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Unfortunately that isn't the way it works, the DVI connection can carry the signal OK, but if the display device isn't also HDCP compliant then you don't get HD with protected material.

Sounds like he has DVI but no HDCP on the display so that means no HD unless it is unprotected material.

Sky have already said they will be using HDCP so that already limits the sources for HD content in the near future.
 
Id be surprised if the set he got with the "HD Ready" label didnt conform to the standard required to obtain one - http://www.eicta.org/files/LicenseAgreement-114600A.pdf...

To be "HD Ready" the set has to support HDCP over whichever connection it uses - If that is indeed isnt the case then the manufacturer/retailer hasnt got a leg to stand on and I would expect a full refund at least...

White Knight - what was the model you purchased?

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NathanE said:
That's FUD. Only the LCD panels themselves are made in the far east. The controller boards, and plastic housings are made over here in Europe and then assembled - at least they are for Samsung and LG. They've always done it this way to avoid various other import duties, besides the new 14% one.


HDMI/HDCP is already here. Just look in any electronics superstore and pretty much all of them have at least one HDMI port.

If you were sold a TV and told it was HD ready when it is not then you are entitled to a refund.
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The TV was bought a year ago, when the HDCP standard had not been completed. There was talk about an upgrade to get an HDCP chip installed but I have not heard anything else from that. The TV will accept HD via Component but then again the picture will lose quality so there is no point really.
 
HDCP has been part of the HDTV standard since late 2004 in USA and ratified by EICTA at the start of 2005...

As far as Im aware the last revision for HDCP was v1.1 which was white papered in 2003 - I would be surprised if your TV is "HD Ready" that it doesnt support that version...

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-White-Knight- said:
On my computer, not at all. On my 50" rear projection tv? Yes! We bought this tv just when the "HD Ready" was comming out, and unlucky for us were stuck with a DVI port with no HDCP, and no HDMI. It really isnt HD Ready because by the sounds of it all TV companies will be introducing HDCP. I hope there is a way around HDCP, the TVs only a year old :(
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WhiteKnight -- If your TV is still under a year old get them to replace it. I just did this with my 42" plasma bought it last valentines and got it replaced last month as it was sold as being HD ready but didnt have the HD ready logo, HDMI or HDCP. Though it did have DVI

Hope it helps luck

hmm i see this thread got a lot longer since i read it lol

Anyways you should know I was able to get them to replace my TV so there is hope for you yet ;)
 
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If the companies that release DVDs think that locking the HDCP signal & giving only a 480x270 pixels picture (less than current DVDs) is gonna drive sales up for all the people who already have bought into the falsely marketed HD ready LCD TVs + recent gfx cards then they are sadly mistaken.

No-one in their right mind is gonna ditch a high end TV & or gfx card to get a better picture when current DVDs are adequate PQ for most.

Maybe in 10 years time but no time soon are people gonna upgrade their DVD libraries to HD-DVD or BluRay.

This is madness as most of the population are only now just starting to get into DVD!
 
It will go the same way as every other major hardware shift, substitute 'VCR' for 'DVD' in your statement and that is exactly what people were saying when DVD first came on the scene.

By releasing the 'HD Ready' TV's way ahead of the media they have already prepared the ground for this change much better than was the case for DVD so you'll be surprised how easily it does take off.

Add in the planned switch-off of analogue and you have another pressure for change in the market as well.

The graphics card issue is a very small side-show to the TV replacements as the number of people using a PC as their primary means to view HD content is very small, growing, but small.

HDCP has been much better planned than DVD region coding so don't expect it to be defeated quite as easily either.
 
Working HDCP cracks will be out in weeks, maybe even days of it being released and the corporations that have spent a fortune developing it will pass the financial cost onto the customer while warez kids download all their HD quality films for free.
 
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Im pretty sure it was already cracked (or had known issues with the cipher complexity or lack thereof) before it was even adopted as part of the HDTV standard...

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