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The app doesn't (I assume) just scrape data, it uses reddit API's. Also, I'm fairly sure the whole reason they're doing this is to stop the AI's learning off their content for free, no?
Apollo / Reddit app, API shenanigans.
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you can, one guy recorded this data into whitenoise & uploaded it to youtube
YouTube As Infinite File Storage
Anyone who was lucky enough to secure a Gmail invite back in early 2004 would have gasped in wonder at the storage on offer, a whole gigabyte! Nearly two decades later there’s more storage to…hackaday.com
I knew about this one but I read that compression in youtubes algo can be an issue for when you come to revert to original which is why I said foolproof
It just amazes me the amount of data they must have and the fact they must have multiple backups of all that data as well, like how do you even organise systematic backups of that many drives, when drives are likely being added daily to that numberTheir infastructure system must be amazing. I doubt anyone in YouTube even knows the full extent of it. Like the US army not knowing how many military bases they have.
I seem to remember that there are users who use Youtube as a personnal video backup site on a corporate scale.
Side note: You can use AWS (Amazon CloudFront) to estimate how much it would cost to distribute information, to different geographic regions
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Personally I'm going to most likely just move to the official app (using ReVanced to make it more bearable). Lemmy and Kbin while promising lacks a lot of features and due to being federated you'll end up with duplicate "subreddits". At least I can use my Mastodon account to interact with those networks without needing to create an actual account on them.
I'm more disappointed in how the CEO is trying to damage control this. All these interviews he's been doing recently looks more like they're aimed at investors instead of the actual users.
I'm more disappointed in how the CEO is trying to damage control this. All these interviews he's been doing recently looks more like they're aimed at investors instead of the actual users.
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Why not just stop using Reddit on the app? The experience is total garbage, there's nothing to gain except pain.
Let it go.
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$5m minus any fees that are taken by the payment processors/app stores. Apollo has a team of people working on it and has had for years. People massively underestimate how much good developers cost and how much work goes into these apps. I doubt they are rolling in money.
Reddit is also a social media platform. Their entire existence is based on people generating free content for them and part of that is the tooling around getting users onto the platform and using it as much as possible. They don't pay their mods. If anything, Reddit was making bank on the backs of everyone else and they just got greedy. They didn't turn around and say "guys, we can't give you free API access when you are making billions of requests a year so we are going to have to charge you". They said "we want to clear out any third-party app for reddit so the only ones left are our own ones which we have complete control of so our pricing is going to be outrageous".
The guy in charge has been shown time and time again to be a lying scumbag and the most recent AMA was a joke. All the top questions were calling them out on their lies and BS and they just ignored them all. Dozens of people have corroborated the fact that Reddit have just completely ignored any communication from them for months/years about everything despite Reddits claims that these third party app developers can contact them to discuss things.
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For you probably, but I follow a couple of small gaming communities that don't really exist elsewhere. I'm not browsing on it constantly anyway, more to catch up on news. Tried the web experience but it was rather uncomfortable to use.
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The API changes hurt small niche communities the most, the larger subs have enough people who just don't care that can absorb the impact.
Web experience should be old.reddit + reddit enhancement suite. It's the best way to use it.
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Sorry, to clarify, I meant on mobile. Desktop I'm already on old Reddit + RES.
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Looks like reddit admins are already putting pressure on subreddits to reopen.
I'm glad they're not backing down against these 3rd party app gatekeepers and power hungry mods who seem to be doing indefinite blackouts against the will of users.
From Reddit Admins to the moderators said:
I'm glad they're not backing down against these 3rd party app gatekeepers and power hungry mods who seem to be doing indefinite blackouts against the will of users.
There has been a bit of a tendancy to bias the polls too. Offer one "blackout" option but lots of "open but" options to split the vote on reopening the subreddits.
The collective "open but" options have the majority of the votes, but because the "stay closed" option is technically the one with the highest votes, they went for that.
From what I gathered from the waveform podcast the Apollo app is a team of 2 people. Maybe they had more in the past. I think they do pay for some server stuff though.
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Was messaged this article by a friend and immediately thought of Reddit. I deleted my Facebook account 15 years ago and Twitter went last year due to the direction the platforms were going, I’m amazed something like this wasn’t published sooner.
Was messaged this article by a friend and immediately thought of Reddit. I deleted my Facebook account 15 years ago and Twitter went last year due to the direction the platforms were going, I’m amazed something like this wasn’t published sooner.
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I've used Apollo for years on iOS. Know the developer behind it too and chatted to him on a few occasions - since I am an iOS dev as well.
I removed the app when he announced the shut down and have no plans to install the official app. I've just stopped using Reddit for the time being.
I removed the app when he announced the shut down and have no plans to install the official app. I've just stopped using Reddit for the time being.
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His WTS has been a 'thing' for years now, it just never took off. I wonder what the rebuild will look like? I still think the likes of Lemmy and even lobste.rs will gain more traction. In many ways, I miss the early Internet. Forums took care of each niche, Usenet was there for discussion of any topic you cared to think about... Then Web 2.0 came, with its centralisation and massive corporations shoving ads and tracking down our throat until users and investors have been wrung dry. Wired do a good article I'm not sure I can link, because the industry term for this rinse and repeat cycle has a four letter sweary in the middle. Search for the 'enPOOPification of TikTok' on Wired for a decent analysis, replacing the obvious.
When it came along, Reddit was special - certainly in the early Aaron Schwartz days. It was community driven, open source, and it was the one place you could find info about, and talk to people involved with, every interest you could possibly have - and find experts in the field while you were at it. Now it's been driven into the ground by 'greedy pig' /u/spez. Fragmentation is a thing, and moving everyone to some pre-agreed destination just won't happen. Big platforms rely on this to keep users around even when they're not happy *cough* Meta *cough*. Maybe Usenet's discussion side will have a resurgence, maybe everyone will migrate to Lemmy, or maybe we'll have a resurgence of the heyday of forums. More likely, Reddit will continue on as a shell of its former self; admins squeezing out investors with ever increasing hyped promises, users drifting away and being replaced by those who don't know or care better, bots, and nonsense. Eventually the Next Big Thing will come along, and the whole premise will play over again. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
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Now theres a surprise, well well.
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Reddit hackers demand $4.5 million ransom and API pricing changes
The BlackCat ransomware group says it has 80GB of internal Reddit data.
www.theverge.com
Thing is it is relatively easy to make a site like Reddit - it is a lot harder to capture an audience for it, make it an established thing, run/maintain it and keep it relevant and fresh without at the same time making changes which drive established users away. Many many have tried over the years some with vast resources behind them.