Apollo / Reddit app, API shenanigans.

KIA · 8 Jul 2023 at 10:49

Kelt said:
Didn't work for me on RIF

More information required.

Kelt · 8 Jul 2023 at 11:00

KIA said:
More information required.

When I ran the program, it mentioned a missing control ID (?), it said you could insert it somewhere, or select it in the patching process. Second time I ran it, I ticked every possible selection, same message.

MrRockliffe · 8 Jul 2023 at 11:13

hudson86 said:
Its not just about the app, its reddits approach to crush 3rd party apps with virtually no notice.

Reddit could easily have made numerous compromises, negotiated in good faith with both developers and its user base, and still made a fair profit. Instead it looked at how well Twitter is going and thought, yeah thats how you do it.

It has worked though

fez · 8 Jul 2023 at 12:51

MrRockliffe said:
It has worked though

In what sense? Have their user numbers remained the same? The question isn't whether they will be making less money because in theory they won't. Those third parties weren't paying them a penny. The big concern is if they lose power users or good mods as a result, their platforms advertising will be less effective and therefore make less money for them.

Ultimately the vast vast majority of people will just move to the reddit official apps. Very few people are willing to suffer any inconvenience for something they believe in unless they really care.

MrRockliffe · 8 Jul 2023 at 13:30

fez said:
In what sense? Have their user numbers remained the same? The question isn't whether they will be making less money because in theory they won't. Those third parties weren't paying them a penny. The big concern is if they lose power users or good mods as a result, their platforms advertising will be less effective and therefore make less money for them.

Ultimately the vast vast majority of people will just move to the reddit official apps. Very few people are willing to suffer any inconvenience for something they believe in unless they really care.

So stage 1 was obviously the blackouts and noise about what was going on.

The blackouts are, from what I understand, over, and so is the noise.

This is stage 2, where things go back to normal. Sure, some people are going to delete their account/submit DSRs/purge their data, but the vast majority of users will be too addicted to the dopamine and will return to Reddit

All Spez had to do was just wait it out. It’s exactly what happened with Twitter and pretty much every social media platform.

The ONLY thing we’ve taught CEOs of these companies is that we’re addicted to the mechanisms they’ve put in place and are willing to tolerate almost everything.

As such, they’ll keep pushing the boundaries.

hurfdurf · 8 Jul 2023 at 14:36

MrRockliffe said:
So stage 1 was obviously the blackouts and noise about what was going on.

The blackouts are, from what I understand, over, and so is the noise.

This is stage 2, where things go back to normal. Sure, some people are going to delete their account/submit DSRs/purge their data, but the vast majority of users will be too addicted to the dopamine and will return to Reddit

All Spez had to do was just wait it out. It’s exactly what happened with Twitter and pretty much every social media platform.

The ONLY thing we’ve taught CEOs of these companies is that we’re addicted to the mechanisms they’ve put in place and are willing to tolerate almost everything.

As such, they’ll keep pushing the boundaries.

Agreed, Reddit has been irreparably harmed but the reversal of its policies has shown to be impossible.

trentlad · 10 Jul 2023 at 01:37

I've not gone back, I'll find myself struggling to find a method of entertainment on the phone but if anything it's made me realize how addicting it's been. This debacle was a fantastic method to cut the grip of reddit, I'll still use term reddit in a google search and still save resulting articles to my account only on desktop but I hope I can keep it at an arms length now.

I'd imagine Reddit has noticed a drop but it's seriously scary to think that after all that outrage the addiction is real and burrowing into peoples brain without their intent.

Kainz · 10 Jul 2023 at 06:52

trentlad said:
I've not gone back, I'll find myself struggling to find a method of entertainment on the phone but if anything it's made me realize how addicting it's been. This debacle was a fantastic method to cut the grip of reddit, I'll still use term reddit in a google search and still save resulting articles to my account only on desktop but I hope I can keep it at an arms length now.

I'd imagine Reddit has noticed a drop but it's seriously scary to think that after all that outrage the addiction is real and burrowing into peoples brain without their intent.

I was the same but the Fediverse/Memmy for Lemmy app fills that void. It is growing steadily and feels fresh enough to stick to.

jpaul · 10 Jul 2023 at 07:43

trentlad said:
I've not gone back, I'll find myself struggling to find a method of entertainment on the phone but if anything it's made me realize how addicting it's been

just laborious & boring trying to use reddit and a lot of apps on a small screen phone - you can't scan information fast enough to discard what you are not interested in,
so waste a lot of time .. you could have been doing something more productive -
I do think that flip / folding phones could be a game changer , come update time.