Appealing university grades

PooBrain said:
1% can usually be given for free so i would appeal. What's the point in sticking you on a 2:2 when you are so darn close to a 2:1? Might as well give you the two one or at least have you revise an assignment to earn that extra 1%.
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Universities don't usually allow exam resists without an exceptionally good reason ("I didn't do well enough the first time" not being one), and it's pretty rare to allow them in final year at all.

Also, it's a bit silly to say "what's the point in sticking you on a 2:2 when you're so close to a 2:1" - that's what grade boundaries are for! If they just bumped up everybody who was 1% down, then the grade boundary would end up being 1% less wouldn't it? And so on...

The fact is that universities (good ones anyway, I don't know where sports_brah went) won't just award degrees based on overall results. Boundary cases will be reviewed and graded according to overall performance. As others have mentioned, these boundary cases will often be graded up (or down!) based on key modules throughout the course. For example, many courses have a large final year project or dissertation, which usually carries more weighting to an exam board than just its credit weighting.
 
RDM said:
Does anyone actually do this? I have never seen a CV with the percentage next to the degree classification.
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Universities have started to issue transcripts (like the American model) with degrees; so, expect to see more of it over the coming years!
 
craptakular said:
In what sector?

Engineering or biomedical stuff?


In what area of the country, London?
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Throughout the UK. I'm looking at Aberdeen as I'm aiming for oil and gas, most grad schemes are £28k plus. They also offer much more progression than an entry level job in the same field.
 
RDM said:
Does anyone actually do this? I have never seen a CV with the percentage next to the degree classification.
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Can't say I've ever seen it done. Aside from CVs applying for first jobs or graduate programmes, it's pretty rare to put the classification as far as I've ever seen. Use of "(hons)" is quite common but covers a fair range of classifications! (First down to third(!!) for those who don't know.)
 
Elixir said:
Throughout the UK. I'm looking at Aberdeen as I'm aiming for oil and gas, most grad schemes are £28k plus. They also offer much more progression than an entry level job in the same field.
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How do you know they offer more progression? Are you just subject to marketing waffle?

You are not comparing like to like. you cant compare jobs at big companies and small companies.

In a small company you could be a director in a few years, but your salary could be low.


If your joining a bluechip, the majority of people would have come through the graduate scheme, or joined from another company from a graduate job.

So you will be progressing faster relative to who? You cant all be progressing fast.
 
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I guess it is a bit arbitrary and it would be nice for the OP to have *just* scraped a 2:1 rather than miss it... though I would assume they are quite careful with how they set the boundaries... maybe your tutor can help in some way? Is there an option to have a viva or something for borderline cases?

As for the grad schemes -don't be so negative - there are companies out there who are still interested - a quick google reveals - Barclays (for retail), PWC (Inspired Talent scheme), CITI (for technology) also Goldman Sachs doesn't set any boundaries (though I suspect you'd need something else to be outstanding on your CV to make up for it). In fact if its technology related then there are plenty of ways of getting in.

Stop worrying about 'grad schemes' tbh... You're better off actually deciding what you want to do with your life and figuring how to go about it. Pretty much most careers which don't require a specialised degree for entry are still open to you in some way. Choosing a career because that was the particular 'grad scheme' you got onto isn't the way to go about it - you could be unhappy for the next 40 years or so of your life if you go about it that way.

There is always the option of some further part time study (to demonstrate some commitment) and then an MSc... if you really need it for whatever field you're interested in. - maybe contact some admissions tutors - 2:1 requirement could perhaps be waived for some courses with some work experience, further part time study/diploma, side projects etc...
 
Meh who cares...

No one looks at the classification number, if you have a degree you have a degree.

Exams are the most pointless things in the world... they should be abolished from computer science degrees.

I get my results on the 2nd of july and I will honestly be happy with a 3rd.
My job doesn't care as long as im a graduate and thats a £40k job
 
Diagro said:
Meh who cares...

No one looks at the classification number, if you have a degree you have a degree.

Exams are the most pointless things in the world... they should be abolished from computer science degrees.

I get my results on the 2nd of july and I will honestly be happy with a 3rd.
My job doesn't care as long as im a graduate and thats a £40k job
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What company would hire a 3rd student for 40k? That's IB territory and they all want impeccable academic records.
 
Never actually found out what exact percentage I got for my overall mark, I was expecting a 2:2 based on my finals, but ended up with a 2:1 - I figured I probably shouldn't ask too many questions about it :p But through some (admittedly rough) calculations of my own, I figure I should have been just below the 2:1 boundary. Always assumed that they were kind with my classification on the basis that I'd averaged a 2:1 throughout my first 4 years, and returned to sit the finals after a year of not being on any courses, so being a little rusty.
 
haz_pro said:
What company would hire a 3rd student for 40k? That's IB territory and they all want impeccable academic records.
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Willing to bet he's forgotten to write OTE after that figure. A 3rd is basically a fail, most companies want at least a 2:2 bachelors. There are exceptions as always, but it's rare.
 
Wouldn't be happy if I get anything less then a 2:1, but then I've already got a job lined up which requires the 2:1.

Certainly in accounting not having at least a 2:1 immediately rules out many opportunities.
 
Easier said than done on harder degrees lol, aiming for a first but since my degree will be pretty much irrelevant soon after graduating it's not vital.

With regards to appealing the grading, my uni has said that they do take into account your performance when looking at averages just under a higher grade and can give you the higher grading without the marks, but tbh without some personal extenuating circumstances I wouldn't expect much to change, the lee-way is there for the people who might have lost parent(s) during their final year and got 59.5% to still get the 2:1 as an example.

I'd also check that you are sure on your calculation, it is unlikely for the uni to have calculated it wrong - have you weighted your grades for the different weight of each year and the different credits each module was worth?
 
SPG said:
How sad, some of the best engineers i have come across are those who did a apprenticeship, did a HNC part time and are now running budgets that would make your eyes bleed.

All a 2:1 does it open up a couple of extra doors and a excuse for HR to justify themselves in the modern world :p
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Meh, you need some way to cut the chaff before the initial assessments.
 
Elixir said:
Willing to bet he's forgotten to write OTE after that figure. A 3rd is basically a fail, most companies want at least a 2:2 bachelors. There are exceptions as always, but it's rare.
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No a 3rd isnt like a fail... a fail is a fail.
Im happy with a 3rd. Uni has screwed me over this past year and a pass is ok... just want to finish
 
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