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I think if you look at the history of first gen apple products, iPad 1, iPhone 1 etc these all get phased out quickly. I suspect we will see a better performing, perhaps revised designs using AS next year. Plus the software will have mature one way or another either using Rosseta or native AS coded apps.
 
JGBR said:
I think if you look at the history of first gen apple products, iPad 1, iPhone 1 etc these all get phased out quickly. I suspect we will see a better performing, perhaps revised designs using AS next year. Plus the software will have mature one way or another either using Rosseta or native AS coded apps.
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So exactly the same as all other 'first gen' stuff... Better not buy that Graphics Card because a newer/higher clocked one will be out soon, it's the same as every single technology.

chef-borjan said:
Regardless of exactly where the benches end up, comments like this from developers are very exciting. You can feel the shock in the air.
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Agreed, just had a read of PCMR over on Reddit for the sheer amusement.
 
You are applying the logic of if you need it now for something buy it versus always waiting forever.

That is different to what this is, a fundamental shift and change that should be considered a gen 1 product and also has historical precedent [PPC to Intel] that shows probably hanging on to gen 2 is wiser to get a better product and better software.

This is way different then say an 2080 to 3080 waiting game. This is something more fundamental to entire Macintosh line not seen in nearly 20 years.
 
The PPC to Intel transition was three years though, I think 3 years for a <1k machine is pretty decent especially for a 1st gen. Hanging on for another release is always going to be better, but let's be honest if people don't buy gen 1 stuff then gen 2 isn't going to be any better because software vendors aren't going to see the need to rewrite for ASi.
 
These new machines are a poor offering but show promise, its really the 2nd generation that will sign the changes are really maturing. There are plenty of unknowns that need to be sorted out over the next 12months plus seeing how this translates into the more powerful 'pro' offerings. Thunderbolt ports are lacking, ram offerings low, and the same design as intel. Maybe when intel is phased out some real design changes can be seen, for instance a lot of empty space in that Mac mini.

Staying just behind the curve due to this massive change and the huge potential - keeping in mind CPU is not everything - is probably safer. No need to be a guinea pig.
 
Even if they do release something a lot better in a couple of years I would have gotten to have native iOS apps, all the benefits from Apple’s custom blocks for encode/decode etc

The GPU and CPU will both be way better than my current 2018 mini and I’m paying less for a higher spec machine.
 
JGBR said:
These new machines are a poor offering but show promise, its really the 2nd generation that will sign the changes are really maturing. There are plenty of unknowns that need to be sorted out over the next 12months plus seeing how this translates into the more powerful 'pro' offerings. Thunderbolt ports are lacking, ram offerings low, and the same design as intel. Maybe when intel is phased out some real design changes can be seen, for instance a lot of empty space in that Mac mini.

Staying just behind the curve due to this massive change and the huge potential - keeping in mind CPU is not everything - is probably safer. No need to be a guinea pig.
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There's always an early adoption tax (whether in cash, or support, etc), and this one is no different really. Doesn't mean being an early adopter is always a bad idea. If you need a new mac right now, buying these is definitely a better idea than buying Intel ones. Buying them for the sake of buying them? There's that early adopter tax for you.
 
JGBR said:
I think we will see new products as early as next year
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You don't need a degree into fortune telling to say that though - of course there will be new products next year. Literally they're just releasing the baseline lowest configs at the moment.
 
I mean an upgraded CPU, probably for the PRO’s. These are very basic machines, will be interesting to see how much having just that extra CPU performance makes a difference to overall what is average specs. 8GB ram standard? 16 Max C’mon.
 
As mentioned though they're the lowest baseline at the moment. I agree 16GB is a concern at the moment, but let's wait to see what the real world tests look like. I don't think anyone is expecting them to launch a iMac with 8GB RAM, or at least I hope they won't.
 
Assuming that the 4 big 4 small combo is the most optimal way of doing things for the 16" and iMac I'd expect they'd double what's in the Air/Mini/13" including the max RAM capacity and run an 16 core SOC (8 big 8 small). They could then take it up to 32+ cores for the Mac Pro.

The RAM thing could also need some re-education as were all used to doing things the X86 way. Apple's RAM management on iPhone is very sophisticated and offers a better experience than android phones with significantly more ram.

A bunch of Mini's could make an awesome render cluster for the cost.
 
I have zero doubt the pro-pro products will be beasts, but we’re basically at day 1 of a 12-18 month process, so patience might have to be exercised... I shouldn’t be that interested given I don’t do anything on this (iPad Pro 12.9” 2nd gen) that’s demanding by today’s standards... but it’s something new and shiny.

Just wish they’d make a decent Thunderbolt Display replacement instead of trolling us with people using these new ones with the Pro Display XDR.
 
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