Its not going to see much in the way of corporation use though.
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Its not going to see much in the way of corporation use though.
They are used extensively still in film and television post-production.
Is it wrong that I want a Mac Pro now?
I'd never have looked at the old one, but that is just so beautiful. I won't get one purely because it would be silly given I have a top end iMac now, but still, they are definitely beautiful bits of kit.
I'm still undecided about the Mini vs Air. Part of me was sure I'd get the Mini once it got the retina display. But the iPad mini design in full size form has meant that I'm now unsure. I do watch a lot of videos on it which is why I'm thinking I'd be best off sticking to the Air
I'd never have looked at the old one, but that is just so beautiful. I won't get one purely because it would be silly given I have a top end iMac now, but still, they are definitely beautiful bits of kit.
I'm still undecided about the Mini vs Air. Part of me was sure I'd get the Mini once it got the retina display. But the iPad mini design in full size form has meant that I'm now unsure. I do watch a lot of videos on it which is why I'm thinking I'd be best off sticking to the Air
Fair enough. I thought that task generally went to racks full of multi-CPU boxes running Linux/Windows as most of the heavy-lifting software is cross-platform. I wasn't aware people were still tying to build clusters of Macs.
Most facilities will be using PC or Linux machines from the the likes of Dell and HP, which will use internal or off-site render farms. This though is typically for compositing and 3D animation work.
Mac Pros are still popular for video editing, sound and design work. You will also find a lot of them in MCRs because they are useful for the cards they can take inside them, along with other pieces of software they run.
I reckon there might be something around March time, giving the iPad the Air branding for me means that will be the lighter version, otherwise no need to change the branding. If you look at their other lines, does follow a similar theme:
Mac mini, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro
iPad mini, iPad Air, ???
I'm guessing the Pro version might be something to compete with the Surface pro line rather than replacing the current iPad. Have been rumours of a cover with a keyboard and larger version.
Cough cough...
Or if you prefer side by side....
Mac Pro is not sold on European market since 18 February due to non compliance with EU safety guidelines. We would kill at work for more 12 core MP's. I know of at least two new boutique outfits since then that had to go PC just because they couldn't get new MP's and they are absolutely screwed using Mac Minis to do exports to ProRes.
Look at those photos again, the rack doesn't start until above the Mac Pro finishes. Bolting them to a shelf is stretching the definition of 'rack mounting' severely since it gives you terrible density.
It was a reply to what do people do with all the cards and kit they have, presumably they are already in an existing Mac Pro. Nobody bought a load of expansion cards and then waited months for the Mac Pro to be available with the hope it would be able to take them.
It was a reply to what do people do with all the cards and kit they have, presumably they are already in an existing Mac Pro. Nobody bought a load of expansion cards and then waited months for the Mac Pro to be available with the hope it would be able to take them.
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Tantrum all you want on technicalities hun, at the end of the day - in a rack, fits, been used in racks of studios, editing suits and broadcast rooms for years.
End of the road for upgradability. That's the problem we are discussing. "Stay on old workstation" is not an answer to the problem.
I haven't owned any Apple stuff for a long time but now the iPad mini with retina display has caught my attention. How are ipads in general for viewing word documents and pdf files? Do I still need to install iTunes on my PC?
If anyone is arguing technicalities it's you. The Mac Pro is 20.1" and does not fit in a 19" rack bar sawing the handles off.
You need to move on and let it go. You've been whinging about Mac Pro's since June. Sure you can continue to do so. But it wont achieve anything. And theres little point in trying to force other people to agree with your POV.
Well based on that logic I've got a rack mount sofa since I can build a cabinet around it and put stuff on the top.
The current Mac Pro's are obviously doing the job they were bought for or they wouldn't have been purchased. It's unrealistic to expect to just be able to swap out the workstation in an entire suite without touching any other hardware. Did you cry about the same issue when the G5s moved away from PCI-X?
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Exactly this... Not just components but possible millions of unsold ipad 2 stock.
I suspect when they went to retina ipad 3 they had a lot of stock and decided to run the old model till sold. As they sell so slow I suspect explains why the ipad 2 still exists.
It's also possible due to extreme cheap costs of ipad 2 manufacture it's a nice little earner to shift them or make them.
It's priced really badly still, it's £10 more than the Retina iPad mini and a whopping £80 more than the old iPad mini. I just can't work out who is going to buy one over an iPad mini, especially a Retina one. They'd be better off putting the £10 difference towards reading glasses.
By that logic of course there is no point of discussing anything with anyone, right?
I don't quite know sometimes why Apple word attracts this kind of hard hat hear-no-evil-see-no-evil apologist stances, where nothing is ever up for discussion. And it's always so "irreformable". Immune to experience, practice, even photographic evidence sometimes it seems
Look, at the end of the day, this not the first Performa or Cube product some of us been through. It's ok for someone to point out this is not a proper Mac Pro unless by "Pro" they mean accountants. It doesn't take away from the prettiness, I'm not spoiling your Xmas, you can still be very happy owner of the new work-adjacent-ish-station-bin-thing. It's just a forum and these are just opinions. We don't have to agree.
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No, PCI-X was not really that popular, widely adopted or long lived. PCI-e is a door to "beyond". It means compatibility. It means standardisation. It means I can have CUDA from secondary nvidia card, or USB 3, or eSATA stack, or use Mac Pro as a rendering or gaming rig with dual boot without Apple technically supporting or acknowledging existence of such devices.
I'm no stranger to "proprietary". Used several Sun servers and workstations at home. SGI Indies, SGI Indigo 2's, briefly O2 as desktops imported privately from US. Owned DEC Alpha too. But I generally hated PowerPC Apple times with passion.
As I see it Intel based Mac Pro 2006/2012 was the best product that ever happened in Mac world. It rescued Apple at the last minute and handed back the keys to two key industries. And they were ready to go. Without it Apple's place on the market would be just a high margin, low volume, underwhelming spec "walkman type devices" and "pretty bedroom portables" manufacturer. Industry provided "gravitas", weight to the rest of the girly products with white plastics and semi transparent shells. Put the pro in "Pro". Made it serious. Because if music is recorded and movies are edited on Apple devices and software, then it was expected that you would listen and watch them on Apple devices, right. Despite terrible choice of codecs, bad "out of the box" filesystem support and awkward cataloging software that marred the product at the beginning masses picked Apple, and left other, easier, often better, most definitely cheaper devices on the shelf.
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Surely its Mac mini, iMac, Mac Pro?
I think you've made a mistake in the platform you've chosen then to be completely honest. If you want to be able to buy a bunch of expansion cards and move them between machines then you buy a Windows workstation and deal with the worse OS, the compatibility quirks and the different software available. Owning a Mac has always put you at the mercy of what Apple decide is good for you.
The writing has been on the wall for a very long time and Apple haven't exactly made any efforts to hide the fact they are moving towards sealed box units (soldered RAM in laptops, having to remove the display on iMacs to do upgrades etc). I can appreciate why you're irritated but you've had a long time to adjust. As sound distribution in studios moves to Dante / Ethersound, assets are stored centrally on very fast arrays the requirements for expansion cards does diminish somewhat. And for the stuff that has to be directly attached there are a bunch of Thunderbolt ports for that.
It sucks if you have thousands of pounds invested in PCI-E cards, but your current Mac Pro works just as well as it did with these cards in before the new one was announced.