Apple October event - Scary Fast - October 30th - 23:59z for the UK!

malachi · 31 Oct 2023 at 08:41

Stu999 said:
No Mac mini

Should be coming next year, as it would be a kick in the face to the people who got the 2023 model 10 months ago.

jrwagh333 · 31 Oct 2023 at 09:06

Grim5 said:
Now I'm really interested to see what Qualcomm brings with its X lineup, given its promising 50% higher performance than M2 which would make it faster than the M3 lineup. Apple could be about to lose its performance efficiency crown

Only if the software supports it. Show me a Linux or Windows machine that runs on ARM with great performance

MrRockliffe · 31 Oct 2023 at 09:12

Grim5 said:
Now I'm really interested to see what Qualcomm brings with its X lineup, given its promising 50% higher performance than M2 which would make it faster than the M3 lineup. Apple could be about to lose its performance efficiency crown

Given Qualcomm can’t compete with mobile processors I’m not overly confident. If they do, I suspect it’ll come at the cost of efficiency.

glenimp617 · 31 Oct 2023 at 09:27

Could Microsoft buy Qualcomm? I mean in theory

whiskycycle · 31 Oct 2023 at 09:32

jrwagh333 said:
Only if the software supports it. Show me a Linux or Windows machine that runs on ARM with great performance

Tried a WOA laptop recently… utterly mince, even with supported software. Returned within a day of receiving it. They’re not even in the same time zone, never mind in the room!

Insane that WOA on an M series Mac via virtualisation is better performance.

jrwagh333 · 31 Oct 2023 at 09:40

MrRockliffe said:
Given Qualcomm can’t compete with mobile processors I’m not overly confident. If they do, I suspect it’ll come at the cost of efficiency.

Qualcomm does very well in the smartphone space. You're too focused on benchmark numbers.

jrwagh333 · 31 Oct 2023 at 09:40

iseedeadpixels said:
Could Microsoft buy Qualcomm? I mean in theory

They bought Activision. They can buy whatever they want.

Richard - London · 31 Oct 2023 at 10:17

New Pencil on the store.

Armageus · 31 Oct 2023 at 10:23

Grim5 said:
Now I'm really interested to see what Qualcomm brings with its X lineup, given its promising 50% higher performance than M2 which would make it faster than the M3 lineup. Apple could be about to lose its performance efficiency crown

Politics have allegedly ruined whatever chances it (Qualcomm Oryon) had anyway

What's going on with Qualcomm's Oryon SoC? - SemiAccurate

semiaccurate.com

MrRockliffe · 31 Oct 2023 at 10:42

jrwagh333 said:
Qualcomm does very well in the smartphone space. You're too focused on benchmark numbers.

They do, but Apple are still ahead.

In terms of performance and experience, current gen Qualcomm is usually equivalent to the previous gen Apple silicon.

Benchmarks are, ultimately, one of the more consistent methods to calculate performance.

Throrik · 31 Oct 2023 at 11:20

It'll be interesting to see the long term effect of Qualcomm purchasing Nuvia which was a load of ex Apple lead Silicon engineers, some of their ARM stuff looks pretty interesting.

Broken Hope · 31 Oct 2023 at 16:16

Behind the scenes of how they shot the event.

Andrew Moore · 31 Oct 2023 at 16:31

I think of all the announcements that happened at the event, the cheeky little "shot on iPhone 15 pro" at the end was the biggest. Not a single person knew that it was, nobody would have guessed and that is outstanding. I dont think it'll be much longer before these devices are used to shoot budget series for netflix and similar given whats on offer.

Irish_Tom · 31 Oct 2023 at 16:56

Andrew Moore said:
I think of all the announcements that happened at the event, the cheeky little "shot on iPhone 15 pro" at the end was the biggest. Not a single person knew that it was, nobody would have guessed and that is outstanding. I dont think it'll be much longer before these devices are used to shoot budget series for netflix and similar given whats on offer.

Given how "meh" the actual announcements were, I have a feeling this was the entire rationale behind it.

HACO · 1 Nov 2023 at 00:39

iseedeadpixels said:
Could Microsoft buy Qualcomm? I mean in theory

In theory? They could merge. In reality? It's not going to happen.

Reuben klang · 1 Nov 2023 at 09:41

HACO said:
In theory? They could merge. In reality? It's not going to happen.

Why would they merge? MS profit last year was more than qualcomms worth.

MS could “easily” buy if they wanted. The market you could say is pretty saturated as well with Apple, Intel, AMD and Nvidia all competitive in the space so don’t think it would be ruled out as a monopoly move either.

Having said all that. I agree it won’t happen.

HACO · 1 Nov 2023 at 20:12

Reuben klang said:
Why would they merge? MS profit last year was more than qualcomms worth.

MS could “easily” buy if they wanted. The market you could say is pretty saturated as well with Apple, Intel, AMD and Nvidia all competitive in the space so don’t think it would be ruled out as a monopoly move either.

Having said all that. I agree it won’t happen.

Merger or acquisition is technically about the structuring of the deal rather than how you pay for it. Deals of this size are often handled as mergers rather than acquisitions. MS is paying all-cash for Activision Blizzard, but it's still structured as a merger when you read the fine print.

Regardless, this is a technicality about how they want to structure the new business and has no bearing towards Microsoft's ability to do it or not (of course they do).