Apple don’t decide on the photos. The database of hash codes are provided by child protection agencies.
Apple to scan images for child abuse
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Apple don’t decide on the photos. The database of hash codes are provided by child protection agencies.
Or 1000s of them. There have already been exploits/malware like this which fill the disk with images.
Make it in to a QR code and stick it somewhere, maybe a fake NHS app one. Watch the clueless masses scan it and go.
Apple responded to Snowden.
https://www.macrumors.com/2021/08/06/apple-to-consider-csam-detection-per-country/
https://www.macrumors.com/2021/08/06/apple-to-consider-csam-detection-per-country/
Apple's own statements make it clear that's not all that will be done. The intent is to scan everything, evaluate everything, categorise everything. The intent is far wider than you stated. What you stated is their public facing weapon to suppress dissent.
Then, of course, there will be function creep. There always is. There will also be incorrect results. There always is.
so howling before hashes of copywrited works are added?
Apple has a major vested interest in disability privacy on its devices to direct customers to its subscription/on demand services
iTunes, Apple TV etc
Expand? Expand?!
https://www.ft.com/content/14440f81-d405-452f-97e2-a81458f5411f
The problem is when people start believing what they're told as the truth and anything other as "tinfoil hat". It's autocannibalism, just as planned.
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If a strong enough match is flagged, then Apple staff will be able to manually review the reported images
I think the term 'strong enough match' makes it clear they will be using some kind of AI, if they were solely comparing hashes then either it's a match or it isn't. Seems like a privacy (and security) nightmare that will do absolutely nothing to catch child predators now that they announced it to the world. Imagine an Apple employee browsing through your files because you took a picture of your toddler in the bath. Not that I was particularly interested in their overpriced phones before, but I certainly wouldn't go anywhere near them now.
I think the term 'strong enough match' makes it clear they will be using some kind of AI, if they were solely comparing hashes then either it's a match or it isn't. Seems like a privacy (and security) nightmare that will do absolutely nothing to catch child predators now that they announced it to the world. Imagine an Apple employee browsing through your files because you took a picture of your toddler in the bath. Not that I was particularly interested in their overpriced phones before, but I certainly wouldn't go anywhere near them now.
Well from the Snowden leaks we know the largest single producer of child pornography is the US/Uk security forces. Through mass collecting of video chats
and they’re who you want involved in this?
So apple employees will be reveiwing images of kiddie porn now and not police? That sounds like a crazy idea.
I wonder how long till security forces add pictures of various people into this hash list?
As we’ve just seen people aren’t happy about an apple employee reviewing matches,so it should be a police officer right?
Well as it’s all hashes no one at apple would know then if the image flagged is child abuse or say some target of the security forces face right?
just there’s a match and they pass it onto the officer who views in private
An amazing tracking ability for blackmail etc
As we’ve just seen people aren’t happy about an apple employee reviewing matches,so it should be a police officer right?
Well as it’s all hashes no one at apple would know then if the image flagged is child abuse or say some target of the security forces face right?
just there’s a match and they pass it onto the officer who views in private
An amazing tracking ability for blackmail etc
Last step, use AI to predict who might become a bad person and punish them before they think wrong
The problem as I see it is that it sets the precedent that you don't actually own or have any expectations of privacy of the data you store on your electronic devices or cloud services.
If we allow governments/companies free reign to scan and analyse all personal electronically stored information I can see that quickly being expanded well beyond the original stated remit of protecting children....
Though one of apples main marketing points is that they respect the privacy of their users and I think it would jeopardize sales if they were seen to compromise that so it's in their own interests to ensure privacy isn't compromised. Time will tell though!
If we allow governments/companies free reign to scan and analyse all personal electronically stored information I can see that quickly being expanded well beyond the original stated remit of protecting children....
Though one of apples main marketing points is that they respect the privacy of their users and I think it would jeopardize sales if they were seen to compromise that so it's in their own interests to ensure privacy isn't compromised. Time will tell though!
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I wonder if hollywood celebrities and the so-called political elite will now change over to android?
Also, how many families with pictures of their children playing in the garden or in a pool will be flagged up?
None, as that’s not how it works. It’s been covered a lot in this thread already.
You make it sound like some regular employee will be reviewing them. That definitely won’t be the case.
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Really??
