I don't know much about Apple's history but it is the inevitable corruption of power. Might not happen today or tomorrow but if you put the process there it will get abused eventually. It might not even come from Apple but the more these kind of steps are accepted the harder it is to fight back when it matters.
Apple to scan images for child abuse
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I don't know much about Apple's history but it is the inevitable corruption of power. Might not happen today or tomorrow but if you put the process there it will get abused eventually. It might not even come from Apple but the more these kind of steps are accepted the harder it is to fight back when it matters.
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You seem to be burying your head in the sand and going full steam ahead with rose-tinted glasses on even when it has been pointed out to you that Apple aren't so forthright in terms of privacy and how past history has shown how other tools "for good" have been abused.
You seem to be displaying full fanboism rather than any common-sense
Apple runs a lot of telemetry on their products and services albeit the big difference is they use it internally (and with subsidiaries) rather than selling it.
You seem to be burying your head in the sand and going full steam ahead with rose-tinted glasses on even when it has been pointed out to you that Apple aren't so forthright in terms of privacy and how past history has shown how other tools "for good" have been abused.
You seem to be displaying full fanboism rather than any common-sense
Where has that been demonstrated?
I'm just not easily convinced that Apple has ill intentions with this. I am not as cynical as some here.
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Hmm with right wing authoritarian governments on the rise I'm not sure that is true at all. Even the governments of our liberal democracies have shown they are happy to spy on its own citizens and journalists for political gain.
Don't get me wrong corps are taking the **** with our data, it is long past the time that legislation was in place to stop this happening.
Yea so they say, but we don't really know who has access to it.
Plus the data can still be stolen by someone else and miss-used.
You only have to look here: https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/worlds-biggest-data-breaches-hacks/
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If you’ve got nudey pics of the Mrs on your phone, would this allow Apple to access them if the technology made a mistake?
It is on device scanning which then uploads the image using a cryptographic so that it can't be accessed (for moderation) unless a certain threshold is breached - what isn't clear is if it happens to any image on the device or only as part of the process of ones which are going to be uploaded anyway.
Send to me, I will verify.
By this point I genuinely expect the UK govt (being a leader in this sort of thing) to have files on all of us. Where we go, what our interests are, our network of associates.
I would be genuinely surprised if central govt isn't monitoring all of us for some years now.
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And i'm not saying they would/will however, Apple aren't squeaky clean by any stretch of the imagination and i can see how a tool like this could be abused and manipulated (either directly or in-directly by Apple), and the concerns it creates around privacy especially when you realise this tool is likely* to cause false-positives.
* We can only go off what's be reported but logically it's possible.
It shows the scanning on device?
Potentially, there are thresholds.
All social media platforms will (or should) have dedicated teams dealing with IIOC. They're carefully selected, monitored (both for conduct and their own well-being and can't/shouldn't be assigned to doing that particular job for longer than a set time. They need people to review images, catalogue them and assist the authorities.
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But surely that would create a method of disabling the scanner and ultimately only prevent the data from landing on Apple's doorstep?
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Surely this is only a step away from people having their doors booted in at silly o'clock in the morning because some div at Apple deemed the holiday photos of their kids playing on the beach to be 'dodgy'.
I want all your private social data - pictures, messages, love notes, e-mails, photos etc and if you don't give them to me YOU must have something to hide.
I want all your private financial data - account balances, who you pay, why you pay them and debts you have anyone you owe money and why you owe them and if you don't give them to me YOU must have something to hide.
I want full access to you house, your car and your place of work so I can put up public webcams for everyone to watch so we can check what goes on 24/7 and if you don't give me full unrestricted access YOU must have something to hide.
I want full access to all of the above from everyone you know too - wife, kids, family, 3rd cousin twice removed, all of them and if they don't give me unrestricted access THEY must have something to hide.
Why haven't you posted all this information yet, what are you hiding? Unless you give me all that info right now you MUST be hiding something!!!!!
Think I'm going OTT? If the stuff Snowden released hasn't opened your eyes to the abuses people in power will carry out because they believe they are morally in the right to do so then there is no hope for you.
I'm still waiting for you to post your info, why are you hiding stuff, what are you doing wrong that you're trying to hide from us????