Soldato
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fun of car ownership... not sure owning a car has ever given me fun
for any kid that's been raised in the countryside, the opportunity to easily go and socialize with freinds is a start.
Are EU and UK governments pricing the youngsters out of the freedom and fun of car ownership?
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for any kid that's been raised in the countryside, the opportunity to easily go and socialize with freinds is a start.
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In those days you could actually fix an old banger yourself, without needing a laptop with Rosstech and a degree in programming!
Everyone owning a car used to be nirvana back when there were fewer people. Nowadays it wouldn't work, of course, but to me the idea of all those people and all the facilities they demand being packed into some tiny little mini-city wouldn't work either. No-one would need to walk more than a short distance, and there'd still be scooters and travelators and other short-cuts, because that's what lazy humans do and there's money to be made from it. Even here they're building more park & rides, instead of facilitating more walking and cycling, because this sprawling town doesn't have enough internal space for parking.
Same here. I always liked doing the night shift and no way could i get a bus home at midnight.
When I first started they used to supply a taxi for anyone working until the end (no public transport at that time of night anyway) but that got scrapped just as I was finishing Uni so it didn’t really effect me.
LOL a taxi back to where i lived would have cost them as much as my wages were for the whole shift!
Yes it would have done at the place I initially started when I was 16, I was 9 miles away. The latest I could work was about 10.00 to catch the last bus back.
But I moved to a city not long after which meant the workforce was much closer.
Edit: I fear we have gone off topic slightly
But I moved to a city not long after which meant the workforce was much closer.
Edit: I fear we have gone off topic slightly
Soldato
Living out in the sticks with one bus an hour (when it turns up) makes car ownership quite necessary. My son started in a banger Fiesta when he passed at 18, and now in his 20's is still quite happy in a small car that cost 4k. He's not at all a petrol head, it's just transport for him.
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If I lived in London I probably wouldn't bother having a car, just hire one as needed (I know people who do this) but in large parts of the country with such poor public transport it would make life much more awkward than it needs to be.
Excuse me local person, I need to get a bus into town but the timetable information seems to be lacking on your village stop. Can you tell me when the next bus is due please?
"Tuesday".
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Youngsters? When i was a youngster a car was an unaffordable dream you made do with bike or moped I didn't get a car until well my 20's and then it was an rusty old second hand thing. Parents generation didn't even have a car until we were growing up! So no. Boy racers didn't really exist back then car ownership has become much more affordable with the sheer amount of traffic to prove it I used to walk home from school and cars weren't common on the roads you'd be lucky to see a few now its non stop traffic.
Which is good for buyers because you could pick up a low mileage 3 year old for not a lot of money or least you used to be able to thats how I got the one I'm driving now
Which is good for buyers because you could pick up a low mileage 3 year old for not a lot of money or least you used to be able to thats how I got the one I'm driving now
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God how old are you? I am 53 and got my first car 6 weeks after my 17th birthday. A 9 year old Talbot sunbeam for £300 which I had saved up from working at Macdonald's. Swapped cars almost every year after that u til at 25 I got a company car and had company cars ever since plus weekend toys that I own.
Most of my mates were the same, we couldn't wait until we passed our tests at 17 and got ourselves our first cars.
I do agree with you that roads were emptier then and it was a lot more pleasurable driving around
And this is putting loads of people in to debt (or running a very fine line) because they are paying a mortgage plus finance on some overpriced BMW/Audi/Merc. They are being granted loans they shouldn't be allowed.
Or they rent a house and rent/finance a car. They are forking out huge sums every month but own neither.
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But things are being given to people who can't really afford it. Which is what caused the 2008 crash.
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Kept a lot of people in jobs though. Plus was an issue in the US “realtor sub prime market” with. UK FCA is much better place to operate.
Don’t let that get in the way of a usual Mashcast though.
Don’t let that get in the way of a usual Mashcast though.
If you're routinely having these things alert you, the technology is not problem.
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I'm not sure having fun in a car is really acceptable these days anyway.
https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/glob...wo-million-bmw-vehicles-worldwide?language=en
New and enhanced functions.
- Unnecessary steering interventions can be avoided with the improved Lane Departure Warning on narrowing roads without centre markings, as well as calculated cornering.
Even Tesla's autopilot needs to be overruled/ignored on UK roads frequently and that is bleeding edge tech.
The poster I responded to was talking about warnings, not self driving capability.
If you're having to routinely turn that off because it's constantly going off, then you're routinely driving like a ****. You become an argument to ensure such systems can't be disabled by morons.