Are Exams the Problem With the Education System

RomanNose · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:20

bhavv said:
But you also get a piece of paper that says you did something or the other whilst you were there.

Oh yeah I forgot about that, definitely worth that £40k + in debt for you or the government.
With the new system, if you don't earn under a certain about then you won't have to pay a penny! Great way to boost the economy by adding £40k to the government deficit.

bhavv · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:26

RomanNose said:
Oh yeah I forgot about that, definitely worth that £40k + in debt for you or the government.
With the new system, if you don't earn under a certain about then you won't have to pay a penny! Great way to boost the economy by adding £40k to the government deficit.

Its been that way for a long time, you dont have to ever pay it back if you never earn a certain amount, so the costs are fine. If you dont get a good job and end up flipping burgers for the rest of your life, you simply had a 3 year paid vacation and a complete dos.

lukeharvest · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:30

RomanNose said:
Oh yeah I forgot about that, definitely worth that £40k + in debt for you or the government.
With the new system, if you don't earn under a certain about then you won't have to pay a penny! Great way to boost the economy by adding £40k to the government deficit.

You do realise... most people do something at University? It really isn't a 3 year party.

bhavv · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:35

lukeharvest said:
You do realise... most people do something at University? It really isn't a 3 year party.

Oh no its not.

3 years of grinding rank 6 hero title in Guild Wars, I forgot about that part

lukeharvest · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:36

bhavv said:
Oh no its not.

3 years of grinding rank 6 hero title in Guild Wars, I forgot about that part

Perhaps for you, but for most people I know, it's hard work.

Nitefly · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:38

lukeharvest said:
Perhaps for you, but for most people I know, it's hard work.

For the vast majority of people it's far short of a 9-5 job in terms of workload, with intermittent hard working sprints every now and again.

lukeharvest · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:41

Nitefly said:
For the vast majority of people it's far short of a 9-5 job in terms of workload, with intermittent hard working sprints every now and again.

Perhaps it's just the group of people I know, but for most of my friends, and myself, it's easily more than a 9-5 job in terms of workload. While that may not be the norm, it's still frustrating to see everyone thinking it's a piece of **** and party for 3 years.

Stewy · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:46

You really do more than a 9-5 workload? What the hell are you doing and where? I'm on about 6 hours a week of contact time and the reading isn't really that necessary.

Nitefly · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:47

lukeharvest said:
Perhaps it's just the group of people I know, but for most of my friends, and myself, it's easily more than a 9-5 job in terms of workload. While that may not be the norm, it's still frustrating to see everyone thinking it's a piece of **** and party for 3 years.

Unless it's a medical course I seriously doubt that you clock up 40 hours of study time a week excluding relatively brief periods of exams and coursework, and if you are, I'd hazard that you lot might lack the common sense to work more productively

lukeharvest · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:49

Stewy said:
You really do more than a 9-5 workload? What the hell are you doing and where? I'm on about 6 hours a week of contact time and the reading isn't really that necessary.

Maths at Oxford, but I know people doing subjects like Maths and Physics at other Universities who are doing ~35 hours a week. For myself, and most of my friends at Uni, you need to be doing 40 hours a week to get the bare-minimum done, it's more-like 50-60 hours if you're wanting to keep on top of the work.

Nitefly · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:50

lukeharvest said:
Maths at Oxford, but I know people doing subjects like Maths and Physics at other Universities who are doing ~35 hours a week. For myself, and most of my friends at Uni, you need to be doing 40 hours a week to get the bare-minimum done, it's more-like 50-60 hours if you're wanting to keep on top of the work.

For maths at Oxford I can appreciate it might be hard work, but 'your most friends at other universities' are telling porkies

Stewy · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:52

Maths at Oxford is hardly comparable to the 95% of people doing normal courses at normal unis

lukeharvest · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:54

Stewy said:
Maths at Oxford is hardly comparable to the 95% of people doing normal courses at normal unis

I understand that, but it's still annoying reading (especially in the media) how University is one big party, and a time to "doss" around.

Tefal · 24 Dec 2011 at 13:54

DaZe said:
The only reason I'm still at school is because to join the RAF as a Pilot Officer you need a degree and A-levels.

might a want to stop missing school then, they may not look very favourably on a poor attendance record.

physichull · 24 Dec 2011 at 14:04

When I was at uni doing physics, I was taught maths also to quite a high degree. My lecturer, whom I admired immensely, was of the old school forms of teacher, a striver for absolute perfection in everything. But, in all his maths exams it was completely open book. His philosophy was that it was of no worth whatsoever to remember trig functions and whatever else, the point which he was examining us on was our application of the methods. His questions would be furiously difficult in parts, maybe he was trying to compensate for having open book. But his methods of teaching and assessing were superb.