I nearly bought a 360 core today with oblivion, but after reading lots of posts about 3 red lights and overheating (not on this forum) im not so sure now, some people have trouble within weeks and some upto 10 months old, has anyone one on this forum had a dud they needed to replace or had no problems with whatsoever ? I like the idea of the ps3 but games will be top whack for a long time, you can get 360 games for as low as £10 to £15 second hand from auction sites which is nice, and the hd dvd drive looks good too. Are they worth getting as they are a year old, could get the Wii but i dont think it supports high def gaming.