Are you ambitious?

[BennyC]

wow !! I started reading your post thinking you were my age (30) but your probably the wisest 21 year old I've never met. lol! Your Dad is soo right mate... Money doesn't make you happy.... My Dad told me that too.

I'm old before my time! Had to do a lot of growing up in the last 2 years!

Having found summer jobs regularly during my teenage years and always having been good with money in regards to budgeting and living within my means along with living at home I've been able to buy everything I've desired. 40" LCD, DSLR, MBP, AV gear & speakers, PS3, Xbox, Home gym equipment, tools, clothes, furniture etc.

Having now had it all(enough for me) (apart from property which is due in October) you realise that there really is a limit to how much happiness money can bring. I can't wander in to town and buy myself a family!

Most of my friends are on placement or still at Uni at the moment (I graduated last year) they've not been around much and I've been ridiculously bored. Friends & family over possessions any day.

To the comment about a man suggesting he doesn't want or need more money to not be trusted. Some people are quite content in their lifestyles and don't feel the need to keep up with the Joneses. If you're happy as you are, secure financially, live within your means and have your health then what possible benefit can more money bring? To be 'more secure' financially with money you won't spend?!

 

[Bleek]

What makes you think that load of rubbish ?

Both my parents retired 20 years ago - still get the virtually the same amount of pension as they did when they retired & have always said they never want or need anymore money.

All they want is their health / and for me / their kids / grandchildren to be safe and healthy.

And some people are actually quite happy with the amount the earn or have as savings to live a normal life on.

So if you were offered a pay rise you wouldn't take it, out of principle?

Kudos to you.

 

[ojrules]

i'm reasonably ambitious, but i'm also lazy... i'm first year uni mech eng, doing ok, this year doesnt count but i'd still like to get a 2.1 which means pulling up my socks this term.... i worked my arse off to get into the uni, and it was a massive punt as to whether i would get in, and still got in by a very small margin.. so in that respect id say i'm rather ambitious but its what people aspire to that is different for different people... it's not all money and power for some...

 

[IceBus]

Extremely. Beginning to wonder if it's worth the risk/reward when it feels like i'm always having to work very hard for the next thing, rather than enjoying where I'm currently at.

 

[Heliospherez]

So if you were offered a pay rise you wouldn't take it, out of principle?

Kudos to you.

I've taken many pay rises.... and still would.

But does that make you trust me more - as opposed to someone who wouldn't ?

I'm saying..... not everyone is driven by money. The fact is (as was said above) - money doesn't make you any more happier - and if you think it does, you are in for a sharp shock at some point.

 

[Bleek]

I've taken many pay rises.... and still would.

But does that make you trust me more - as opposed to someone who wouldn't ?

I'm saying..... not everyone is driven by money.

True, but you find me someone that would turn it down.

 

[Heliospherez]

I can - Me.

Do you realise ultimately what it takes to get more money - the sacrifices you will no doubt have to make ?

I turned down a promotion (which meant I earnt a lot more money) 5 years ago, simply because the job meant being on-call more, more stress, less time with wife/kids and most importantly the job didn't seem secure.

It had nothing to do with me not being abitious or not being money driven..... I just wanted a normal family life and I realised you sometimes have to take a step back and remember what you are really on this planet for - most people start realising this as they get older and their parents die / kids grow up / friends move on etc and they are left with nothing but a job.

 

[Castiel]

Any man who suggest he doesn't need or want more money is not to be trusted.

I don't need more money than I currently earn.

I don't think I particularly want more either, accumulating wealth just for the sake of it seems totally daft and self destructive to me.

I would much rather spend the time with my son than just working to gain more than I can use.

Some things are far more important than money.

 

[jfp]

I agree entirely. My father always said this to me when I was younger. I would always be concerned with how much his new TV cost or how much the new car set him back or how much he was earning (whilst I was in my teens).

He always said 'Money doesn't make you happy'. I listened but I never really understood. Until he died 2 years ago leaving me a life changing amount of money, not loads but enough to get me on the property ladder just outside London almost mortgage free. I'd give it all to still have him here

I don't know if it differs when it's money you've earned but I can't see it being much different other than you'd have a sense of satisfaction and achievement for a short while.

When you eventually realise that there's only so much low level happiness to be gained from material possessions you'll appreciate the prospect of sharing your life with someone, having kids and eventually your own family.

This coming from someone who's 21. I know the value of money. I know the value of happiness. If I could be loaded and alone or have a family and live comfortably I'd take the latter every time.

I see no attraction in having loads of money and lots of nice things if you have no one to share them with. That's just me. Each to our own. Some of us that work hard and/or are fortunate enough, have both .

Too true, I would pick good company over money everyday of the week!

 

[BennyC]

True, but you find me someone that would turn it down.

Being offered a pay rise and working for one are a bit different. If someone is going to offer you more money to do the same thing then you'd be foolish to turn it down.

The judgment of true happiness is clouded somewhat by material possessions and zero's on the end of your paycheck as said above. The notion of thinking 'great a pay rise, I can go and buy a Bentley/holiday home/hookers' isn't going to bring you lasting happiness.

I do wonder if the want to do well is actually personal desire to achieve or not wanting to feel inferior to one another.

 

[Frapple]

Sometimes I want to be.

Sometimes I am.

Most of the time I'm just too ****ing tired.

 

[p4radox]

Yes I'd say I'm ambitious. But I'm not really that motivated by money. I'm about to finish my MEng and I've had a few job offers, and I'll end up choosing a job not on the salary but on the location and how interesting/rewarding I think it'll be.