arghh.. work mate keeps trying to convert me

newbidood · 4 Dec 2007 at 19:51

ok i work with a god fearing christian, who has tried and failed to make me see the light. He knows that I dont believe in any of that, and the only thing i believe in is evolution, due to the evidence all around us.

So today he had another try, why ohh why, can't these people just respect other peoples beliefs ? Its bad enough my wifes family are christian, but even they have given up.

So before i goto hell, i'd just like to say to any christians, please.. by all means try once, but if the answer is no, let it drop and respect other peoples beliefs.

BillytheImpaler · 4 Dec 2007 at 19:54

Have you told him that you're not interested in his evangelization and politely asked that he leave you alone in this regard?

Indy500 · 4 Dec 2007 at 19:55

I wonder if it was imposed on him as a child...

AJUK · 4 Dec 2007 at 19:57

Tell him to bring you definitive proof of the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient being or he can stfu. Tell him also that faith is not an acceptable answer and also that the onus is on him to prove there is rather than you to prove there isn't.

Failing that write the numbers of some local psychiatrists on some card and hand one to him every time he evangalises stating that you think he needs to seek professional help for his delusions.

Basically insult the fool.

BillytheImpaler · 4 Dec 2007 at 20:00

AJUK said:
Basically insult the fool.

I don't think that's a good idea, it'll just encourage him to try harder. Just let him know that you don't want to hear about it. There's no need to argue or debate the issue. He's sure he's right and so are you. It might even be considered harassment if you ask him to stop and he doesn't, seeing as it's the workplace.

newbidood · 4 Dec 2007 at 20:01

AJUK said:
Basically insult the fool.

hes actually a nice guy, apart from the whole religious side. the problem is, its either the bible, or its utter tosh. When you try to give him a reasonable debate, it just gets dismissed as rubbish .

Spyhop · 4 Dec 2007 at 20:03

So you need to craft some kind of situation in which you can triumphantly proclaim "Where's your god now?!!"

scorza · 4 Dec 2007 at 20:04

Maybe you should try actually listening to him with an open mind and making your own mind up? It sounds like you haven't really given your work mate a chance - I think it's very brave of him to talk about his faith like he is.

Robosapien · 4 Dec 2007 at 20:38

Just agree with him. Smile plus nod

Richiev4 · 4 Dec 2007 at 20:41

But a teddy bear and name it Jesus, and see what happens

Moley · 4 Dec 2007 at 20:44

Tell him to #!$% right off.

Seriously, you know that time when you were younger? When that bird you DIDN'T fancy wouldn't leave you alone and wouldn't take a hint? In the end you had to be nasty to make her go away?

You're only encouraging the fool by not being clear in your requirement for him to leave you alone.

Tony Williams · 4 Dec 2007 at 21:16

I'm with you, Atheism 4tw. This reminds me of an episode of American Dad.

vincent1989 · 4 Dec 2007 at 21:21

AJUK said:
Tell him to bring you definitive proof of the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient being or he can stfu. Tell him also that faith is not an acceptable answer and also that the onus is on him to prove there is rather than you to prove there isn't.

odd really, as things like evolution rely on this quite a lot as well (ie faith, and lack of conlusive proof not based on something proven to be false or fruadulent) :rolleyes:

Indy500 · 4 Dec 2007 at 21:24

bringerofdecay said:
odd really, as things like evolution rely on this quite a lot as well (ie faith, and lack of conlusive proof not based on something proven to be false or fruadulent)

The difference between you and the OP's friend (apparently) is that you didn't try to convert me

vincent1989 · 4 Dec 2007 at 21:26

sr4470 said:
The difference between you and the OP's friend (apparently) is that you didn't try to convert me

hehe, well, i'm not a self righteous idiot who believes theirs is the only answer

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we'll have to talk again on MSN sometime

semi-pro waster · 4 Dec 2007 at 21:43

scorza said:
Maybe you should try actually listening to him with an open mind and making your own mind up? It sounds like you haven't really given your work mate a chance - I think it's very brave of him to talk about his faith like he is.

Why should newbidood have to? If he doesn't want to listen to a lecture about Christianity and has made his feelings known then that should be the point where it stops. Maybe the workmate is doing it with the best of intentions but you can't really save someone who doesn't want to be saved. Also bear in mind that work isn't really one of the places where you can just leave, as you perhaps could on the street, or effectively shut the door in the evangelisers face, as you could in your home.

Either action is arguably rude but no more or less so than ignoring a stated wish for someone not to go on about their faith or indeed any other subject. Believe in what you want but don't tell me about it when I make it clear that I am not interested.

AJUK · 4 Dec 2007 at 22:29

bringerofdecay said:
odd really, as things like evolution rely on this quite a lot as well (ie faith, and lack of conlusive proof not based on something proven to be false or fruadulent)

Not this again. Evolution has been proven so it is true. :rolleyes:

semi-pro waster · 4 Dec 2007 at 22:55

AJUK said:
Not this again. Evolution has been proven so it is true.

Micro evolution has been observed as I understand it, that doesn't automatically mean that evolution is the method by which we as humans came about.

BobMonkhouse · 4 Dec 2007 at 23:12

bringerofdecay said:
odd really, as things like evolution rely on this quite a lot as well (ie faith, and lack of conlusive proof not based on something proven to be false or fruadulent)

If you really believe that I would advise you to do some research as what you've just said is completely wrong I'm afraid. Evolution most certainly does not rely on faith, it relies on decades of painstaking research and evidence collected that spans many millions of years into the Earths past. In all it's time there has not been one shred of evidence against Evolution, as if there ever were it would stop being a theory and would just be an idea someone had that turned out to be wrong. Evolution cannot be directly observed as it occurs over many millions of years (on the scale of one species evolving into a new one) therefor it will never be considered proved (by those in the know), despite the fact that there is an overwhelmingly huge amount of evidence for it.

Also one last note, Evolution as a theory doesn't explain everything. This does not mean it's wrong, it's just incomplete.

AJUK · 4 Dec 2007 at 23:13

semi-pro waster said:
Micro evolution has been observed as I understand it, that doesn't automatically mean that evolution is the method by which we as humans came about.

Yes it does, humans evolved by the same mechanism as every other organism on this planet.

arghh.. work mate keeps trying to convert me

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