arghh.. work mate keeps trying to convert me

"I am a creationist and an evolutionist. Evolution is God's, or Nature's method of creation. Creation is not an event that happened in 4004 BC; it is a process that began some 10 billion years ago and is still under way." – Theodosius Dobzhansky
 
jdickerson said:
"I am a creationist and an evolutionist. Evolution is God's, or Nature's method of creation. Creation is not an event that happened in 4004 BC; it is a process that began some 10 billion years ago and is still under way." – Theodosius Dobzhansky
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It really is quite amazing the number of dumbass atheists who think that by talking about evolution they are somehow contradicting my religion ;)
 
scorza said:
It really is quite amazing the number of dumbass atheists who think that by talking about evolution they are somehow contradicting my religion ;)
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Dobzhansky is almost the father of Evolutionary biology.

Religion is personal thing anyway. Faith is like pain - subjective and thus incomparable.
 
PinkPig said:
You can't stop him talking about his faith.
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Yes you can. If I'm with a mate and he starts to talk about something I don't want to talk about, especially something as personal as faith I will tell him to shut up andif he won't I'll walk away. Easy.


PinkPig said:
Smile and nod and be friendly - it doesn't sound like he's really causing you any trouble.
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He obviously is causing the OP trouble by refusing to show his beliefs and wishes the respect that they deserve by forcing his beliefs on another.


PinkPig said:
(Why get annoyed by religion? He's got just as much right to be annoyed by your atheism)
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No he doesn't. The OP isn't forcing his opinion and beliefs on this bible basher.
 
I would just roll with it....engage him in debate

it would be interesting and informative and you can do your own research to counter his arguements...just saying 'its a load of old cobblers' isnt an arguement

a mate of mine works shifts so he often at home when the mormons come knocking...we seem to get a lot of young american kids up here who must do missionary type learnings for their church

he says they are genuinely nice people and always invites them in for a cuppa..mainly just so he can argue with them..but he enjoys the debate...last time he was doing his kitchen and they helped him with the tiling whilst they argued :)

so use it as a tool for constructive and interesting chats..and learn something from it!
 
tell him you're going to have to put in a harrasment claim if he keeps doing it, im fairly sure this kind of thing should be a big no-no in the work place, in my eyes its as bad as sexual harassment. Whole pushing beliefs etc onto sum1;)

Bloody preachers!
 
Frankly if you want to believe in a piece of text that was written hundreds of years ago and has so many holes and inconsistencies in it that you could run the M25 through the middle of it then that's your prerogative. I do not believe however that anyone should have any opinion or belief forced upon them and if you have told this guy once your not interested then you next step should be a harassment complaint to your boss / whoever
 
newbidood said:
ok i work with a god fearing christian, who has tried and failed to make me see the light. He knows that I dont believe in any of that, and the only thing i believe in is evolution, due to the evidence all around us.

So today he had another try, why ohh why, can't these people just respect other peoples beliefs ? Its bad enough my wifes family are christian, but even they have given up.

So before i goto hell, i'd just like to say to any christians, please.. by all means try once, but if the answer is no, let it drop and respect other peoples beliefs.
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Tell him your a Muslim:p:D
 
Ask Him Bill Hicks's 1 word Question "Dinosaur." "If the world is twelve thousand years old and dinosaurs existed in that time you'd have to think it would be mentioned in the ******* bible at some point!"
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Capn' $qu!ff said:
Ask Him Bill Hicks's 1 word Question "Dinosaur." "If the world is twelve thousand years old and dinosaurs existed in that time you'd have to think it would be mentioned in the ******* bible at some point!"
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You'll probably have more luck offending him with another Bill Hicks quote: "Hitler had the right idea, he was just an underacheiver".
 
scorza said:
You'll probably have more luck offending him with another Bill Hicks quote: "Hitler had the right idea, he was just an underacheiver".
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"& Oh jesus and the disiples went to Nazereth. But the trail was Blocked by a giant Brontosaurus with a splinter in his paw & Oh the disiples did run a shrieking what a big ******* Lizard Lord!":D
 
The argument I like to use is as follows:

Back to the “story” of Noah, where basically God gives man free will and then decides that he doesn’t like what man has done with it and therefore commits mass genocide…

Now at this point the argument back is “oh well that’s just a story!”….

So then go back to them with this…. The central idea / concept of Christianity is the idea of “original sin” (when Adam and Eve left the garden of Eden), therefore if this is just a “story” and didn’t really happen then why did God/Jesus decide to come to down to Earth 2000 odd years ago and absolve all of our sins? I mean if Adam and Eve is a story then there is no original sin and therefore no sins to absolve?! Was Jesus just a bit of a Masochists did he fancy a good time with the Romans?

The other amusing one that’s branded around a lot in regards to homosexuality is that the bible says no man shall lay with another man… if you are to take the bible literally then it has some other rather interesting ideas such as:

In Geniuses 19:4-8 A group of sexually depraved men demands that Lot turn over to them his two male visitors. Lot offers his two virgin daughters instead.

So I can now turn my daughters over to rampant mobs of sexually depraved men?!? Excellent!

In Samuel 6:14, 16, 20-23 David dances and exposes himself to his maids. (His wife, Michal rebukes him for having done so, and as a consequence she is made barren.)

So don’t worry next time you go flashing and get a female judge in court who "rebukes you" she will be made barren by God…
 
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^^ the bible is full of parables you don't take books written 1000s of years ago literally.

It is people taking these writings literally that is the cause of all the religious wars in this world.

Either way it sounds like you give him cause for debate.

Just say politely no I'm not interested don't enter the debate or give him any reason to take it further.
 
wush said:
So you need to craft some kind of situation in which you can triumphantly proclaim "Where's your god now?!!"
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standing over him with a carving knife after sticking him in the eye should be a reasonable representation to follow for this scenario

Pneumonic said:
The argument I like to use is as follows:

Back to the “story” of Noah, where basically God gives man free will and then decides that he doesn’t like what man has done with it and therefore commits mass genocide…

Now at this point the argument back is “oh well that’s just a story!”….

So then go back to them with this…. The central idea / concept of Christianity is the idea of “original sin” (when Adam and Eve left the garden of Eden), therefore if this is just a “story” and didn’t really happen then why did God/Jesus decide to come to down to Earth 2000 odd years ago and absolve all of our sins? I mean if Adam and Eve is a story then there is no original sin and therefore no sins to absolve?! Was Jesus just a bit of a Masochists did he fancy a good time with the Romans?

The other amusing one that’s branded around a lot in regards to homosexuality is that the bible says no man shall lay with another man… if you are to take the bible literally then it has some other rather interesting ideas such as:

In Geniuses 19:4-8 A group of sexually depraved men demands that Lot turn over to them his two male visitors. Lot offers his two virgin daughters instead.

So I can now turn my daughters over to rampant mobs of sexually depraved men?!? Excellent!

In Samuel 6:14, 16, 20-23 David dances and exposes himself to his maids. (His wife, Michal rebukes him for having done so, and as a consequence she is made barren.)

So don’t worry next time you go flashing and get a female judge in court who "rebukes you" she will be made barren by God…
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dont forget lot shagged his own daughters in a cave after they had fled from sodom and gomorrah, but it was ok as he was drunk, there for it was the daughters fault.
 
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Indeed.. it is rather ammusing.. cant be arsed to look it up.. but am certain it promotes the kidnap and deflowering of 32,000 virgins somewhere..

I think if people take things with a pinch of salt then there is nothing wrong with religion.. its just those that try and force it on you or take everything literaly that are the problem
 
Nihilism or Anti-religion are preferred over Atheism. Some christian nut-job said that Atheism was the belief there was no god... Nihilism is the lack of belief, anti-religion is even better though :)

Don't tell me evolution doesn't exist either, I'm currently writing an article on 'The selective adaptation of the human pelvic girdle' in comparison to early hominins and apes - my head would probably explode if you told me it was all a load of rubbish.
 
Well I think you could argue religion was "invented" to explain to the masses the unknowns of the world they live in, now the reason religions in general are declining in the "developed" world is that people can now explain the unknowns and no longer need the crutch of religion..
 
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