Argument on train

[anything I don't mind]

There I was sitting on the slow train on the way to work when some guy gets on playing music from his mobile phone. I said to him just like this "excuse me is that you", he said "yes". I said that is annoying. He responded by saying that i should have asked him nicely. I thought what i said was quite polite, i could think of many ways to say it a lot worse. We ended up having this big argument about it. I said that he was inconsiderate first and thus not deserving of politeness. He said that he didn't think it was bothering anyone, i said that it was being inconsiderate is. He ended up getting me worked up enough for me to start swearing at him. OF course he was muslim/indian and ended up asking if i speak to my family like that. So i asked him if it is was a cultural thing which got him all worked up and he twisted it in to me being racist because he had a beard.

What do you think. Should i have asked him very politely or should he have been more considerate in the first place?

 

[Maccy]

You should have been more polite from the off tbh.

 

[zenf]

So i asked him if it is was a cultural thing which got him all worked up and he twisted it in to me being racist because he had a beard.

Damn those beardies, dey terk err jerbs!

What do you think. Should i have asked him very politely or should he have been more considerate in the first place?

Both from the sound of it, although I do also find it frustrating when people are being blatantly inconsiderate as it sounds like he was.

 

[GravyMonster]

He was being inconsiderate, you approached it very badly. If he refuses to turn off the music after you ask politely, then you get more abrupt.

OF course he was muslim/indian and ended up asking if i speak to my family like that. So i asked him if it is was a cultural thing which got him all worked up and he twisted it in to me being racist because he had a beard.

And you just lost all respect.

 

[neil_g]

going in with the casual racism probably didnt help your argument.

 

[SC0TTRS]

I would have said "excuse me fella, turn that **** down before I stab you!"

This is normal where I come from!

 

[Sliver]

You should have offered him some Haribo first. He would have then been putty in your hands.

 

[Devrij]

Simply asking would he mind turning it down a bit would have been a solution straight off the bat, but his confrontational manner about how you asked him is also out of order.

So you both could have done better.

 

[Efour]

both

ask very nicely, then next move is what you did. He sounds like a douche aswell.

end of, move on with life.

 

[OhEsEcks]

OF course he was muslim/indian and ended up asking if i speak to my family like that.

So? What in the name of hell does his religion or ethnicity got to do with anything? He was right. You were swearing at him. Do you speak to your family like that?

So i asked him if it is was a cultural thing which got him all worked up and he twisted it in to me being racist because he had a beard.

You sound like a racist. Or at least a xenophobe.

What do you think. Should i have asked him very politely or should he have been more considerate in the first place?

I think you should have minded your own business. You sound like a curtain twitching busy body.

 

[Erich Kriegler]

Aren't you the guy who argues with people for speaking foreign languages on the train?

 

[Gogl]

I would have said "excuse me fella, turn that **** down before I stab you!"

This is normal where I come from!

Sounds like the correct etiquette to me.

 

[davido_labido]

oh lordy...

heres how the conversations should have gone..

"hello, is that music yours"

"yes"

"would you be so kind as to turn it down please?"

"yes, ok, i didn't realise it was so loud"

"thank you kind bearded fellow"

also "muslim/indian" you can be an muslim... once a religion ones a race...

 

[anything I don't mind]

I do think it was a cultural thing. Not a racist way. In his culture the way they speak is overly polite. With my culture we speak to other very abuptly and it is not intended to be non polite., its just the way we speak. I let him know that it was annoying it is up to him whether he wants to do anything about it after that. I don't see why i have to say, excuse me kind sir, but if you don't mind if you could please turn off your music because it is disturbing my train ride to the station.

For the record, i only asked him if it was a cultural thing about 5 mins of arguing.

 

[Theophany]

Have people forgotten how to be British on public transport all of a sudden?

Tuts, sighs and eyerolls are all acceptable. Actually doing anything about annoyances is a direct acknowledgement that you are not the only person on the bus/train/magic carpet and thus very un-British.

 

[GravyMonster]

So? What in the name of hell does his religion or ethnicity got to do with anything? He was right. You were swearing at him. Do you speak to your family like that?

I'm of course guessing you're English/honky?

 

[antijoke]

I think you went about it in totally the wrong way!

 

[anything I don't mind]

I thought i was quite polite when i asked him. If i had said, aye mate shut that ***** *** **** thing off. then i think he would have grounds to moan. But as i said excuse me is that you. Then let me him that it was a bit annoying. I thought i was being polite. But he didn't seem to think so.

 

[ElliorR]

Is this the forthcoming sequel to Snakes on a Plane?

 

[anything I don't mind]

Aren't you the guy who argues with people for speaking foreign languages on the train?

I moaned one time to one couple out of millions of instances in my life.