Arma vs Operation Flashpoint...

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Having never played either of these in days gone by, and with Arma2 out and OFP2 coming out in October (potentially), am curious as to what the differences are.

I know the originals were written by a team that have now split, with Codemasters retaining the OFP brand. But what's the differences in gameplay amongst the two?

Have heard it's a bit like Crysis vs Far Cry 2, but no idea which is refering to which...
 
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But here we go, they can't be compared. ArmA 2 is nothign like either of those gameplay wise, graphically yes.

ArmA 2 gameplay is realistic and not the realism banded around about BF2 or CS, this is a proper military sim, based around VBS (Virtual Battle Space) used by the MoD, USMC and many other organistations around the world for doing mission rehearsal and tactical training.

OFP2 is probably going to be similar to CoD4 or BF2, and is going to be semi arcadey. From what I've heard, players can take multiple shots to be taken down (4 or so) and can imagine it's very pickup and play.

Really though those 2 games can't be compared and it's only due to Codemaster's re-using the name that people seem to think it will be similar to the original OPFP/ArmA series.
 
Deaco said:
OFP2 is probably going to be similar to CoD4 or BF2, and is going to be semi arcadey. From what I've heard, players can take multiple shots to be taken down (4 or so) and can imagine it's very pickup and play.
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This is a misconception and the game will not be an arcade shooter like COD4, far from it. All the previews released to date have commented that the game requires strategic thinking and that playing it in a run n gun manner will get you killed very quickly. It is true that sometimes it can take multiple shots to take you down, but this is very dependent on where you are hit. If you are hit in the right area, then you will instantly be killed.

Here's a link to one of the more recent videos on youtube for OFP: DR

I'm the Community Manager at Codemasters, so I know what I am talking about with regards OFP: DR :)
 
Simplest way to explain it is

COD / BF2 players will LOVE Ofp2 ( Arcady type run n gun game)
No video I have seen to date convinces me otherwise , most vids make it look rather restricted , yet to see any decent long range shots of landscapes that were decent.

Ofp / Arma1 players will LOVE Arma2 (most major bugs are now fixed - the game is far more complex than other games) , its is a military simulator , things like 4Km viewdistance makes it different from other games

Yeah and like if I were really retarded I might believe the blurb written
by one of codemasters AD men ..............
 
FirebarUK said:
Arma2 is full of win.

OPF2 probably won't be.

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Fixed ;)

Plus as far as I know OFP2 will not allow anywhere near as much user created content as Arma2 does. If you look at some of the missions/vehicles/mods being created by the community for Arma2, there is no way OFP2 can compete unless they do something drastic at the end.
 
Having played OFP1, Arma 1 and 2, I have to say, all Arma 2 really is, is a slightly better looking version of its predecessors. That is it. A lot of you may winge a moan at me for this, but deep down you know I am right. The same old bugs, the same old clunky feel, but with a new front cover on. From what I can tell, DR will be on an equal with Arma2 in terms of realism (and I just know somebody is going to come back at me about consoles now!), but hopefully, with the different engine, the game will be a helluva lot less buggy and hopefully won't feel so clunky, clumsy and awkward as Arma is. I for one, unlike a lot on here am feeling really quite optimistic about this one.
 
There is no reason why not enjoy both.I bought ArmA 2 and I LOVE IT, and I will probably buy DR and love it too (if it gets good reviews).
 
I'm addicted to Arma 2 and I've never played arma 1 or ofp.

I love the sense of rush being fire at by AI, oh **** what do I do? should I crawl or make a break to the next building?

I havent fully master arma 2, flying the helo is a tricky for me.

Can't wait to get ofp 2 tho.
 
rotter023 said:
I'm the Community Manager at Codemasters, so I know what I am talking about with regards OFP: DR :)
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Can you confirm for us that the multiplayer is a maximum 8v8 and no dedicated servers for PC?

Arma2 is a sandbox War Sim. Ofp-dr will be a stratigic war game with pretty graphics. both have a place on a gamers shelf

Ill most likely get ofp-dr for the coop campain, but arma2 will be my main game for a long while yet due to the emence modding community and the guys at ocuk-arma2.co.uk that I play with.
 
[TW]Taggart;14587830 said:
Can you confirm for us that the multiplayer is a maximum 8v8 and no dedicated servers for PC?

Arma2 is a sandbox War Sim. Ofp-dr will be a stratigic war game with pretty graphics. both have a place on a gamers shelf

Ill most likely get ofp-dr for the coop campain, but arma2 will be my main game for a long while yet due to the emence modding community and the guys at ocuk-arma2.co.uk that I play with.
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The PC version has 16v16 MP with each player controlling his own fireteam.

With regards the server situation, this will be revealed in upcoming previews and news releases :)
 
rotter023 said:
This is a misconception and the game will not be an arcade shooter like COD4, far from it. All the previews released to date have commented that the game requires strategic thinking and that playing it in a run n gun manner will get you killed very quickly.
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CoD4 wasn't really too arcadey, it was semi-realistic that did require tactical thinking on hardcore. Also that idea can be applied to the other games it's being likened to, BF2, in that with strategy and tactics you will win more often and stay alive longer than running and gunning. However in both games you can play like it, whereas in ArmA2.. running and gunning = death.. infact just running more than likely will get you killed.

rotter023 said:
It is true that sometimes it can take multiple shots to take you down, but this is very dependent on where you are hit. If you are hit in the right area, then you will instantly be killed.
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Similar to CoD4/BF2?


rotter023 said:
Here's a link to one of the more recent videos on youtube for OFP: DR
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To be fair, that doesn't really show off anything apart from a heavily scripted video.. it does look good, but it's does seem highly scripted.



Before anyone thinks this is a bash and that I'm looking to start a flame war or anything, it does seem pretty good and if it's half as good as BF2/CoD4 then I will probably get it. I just don't think ArmA2 and OFP:DR should ever be compared, as they are chalk and cheese.
 
I'm hoping the new Op Flashpoint will be easier to get into than Arma2 - the old one (Op Flash 1) wasn't the most intuiative but you got there - Arma 2 seems to bend over backwards to make everything unnecessarily complicated and fussy.
 
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Rroff said:
I'm hoping the new Op Flashpoint will be easier to get into than Arma2 - the old one wasn't the most intuiative but you got there - Arma 2 seems to bend over backwards to make everything unnecessarily complicated and fussy.
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if you want help then join up with us at ocuk-arma2.co.uk and get on vent. We are more than happy to help out new players.
 
Oh I don't need help :P I can figure it all out - it just seems to take unecessary steps to do everything and make everything as overly complicated as it could be... slowing down the gameplay.
 
Operation Flashpoint II is shaping up very nicely :)

I've seen a fair bit of the game and it looks nothing short of fantastic so far. The first was fantastic fun.

Armed Assault II was very complicated when I played it, which in part put me off.
 
I got used to arma 2 it was my first arma game, Ihaveh first OPFP the controls and actions are simplier but they done some *quick menus* on arma 2
 
If I read your question right, u think that Arma and OFP are a different series and want to know the difference between the two.

Let me put it straight: Bohemia Interactive Studios developed these games in this order:

Operation Flashpoint
Armed Assault
ArmA2

Each one was a continuation and built upon the last, so in a sense they are all based around a similar concept and more or less the same engine (just updated).

Now so far Codemasters has developed:

---squat---nadda---

However, they are developing OFP2.

They published OFP 1, but they did not develop it.


So in summary, you cant compare OFP and Arma as though they are two competing franchises, cause they are more or less the same game, one just has updated visualls and other 'improvements' (cough).

Anyway, so I hope that helps.
 
rotter023 said:
The PC version has 16v16 MP with each player controlling his own fireteam.

With regards the server situation, this will be revealed in upcoming previews and news releases :)
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wait...what? Theres no 30v30 maps or 64v64? No large scale Mp maps in Opf2?:eek:
 
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