ASDA Parent & Child parking - fine for misuse
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[TW]Fox;10891849 said:This is a good theory which often gets let down in practice when you emerge from the store to find your empty corner of the carpark bizarrely populated by a bunch of cars all around yours
So true!
I parked literally in the middle of nowhere, I spotted an RS4 out there, there was 1 other car parked in the same section, there was space for 150 cars in that section.
I went and parked 1 over from the RS4 (it was nearest to the entrance) leaving a space between the 2 cars.
I return to my car to find a clapped out fiesta (1994 model) with rust and dents parked BETWEEN THE 2 CARS
The owner entrusts their car to a 3rd party, who then go and get their car clamped. The clamping company are acting perfectly legally. The owner needs to take it up with the 3rd party that got the car clamped.
Else every tom dick and harry would be using it as a getout clause to avoid paying clamping charges.
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I used to park there all the time for Uni when courts were open without a problem. Then the clamping cowboys turned up so everyone left. Now Courts has gone bust but the signs remani. People have started parking there again...
I disagree. Imagine this, the driver removes the clamp from the vehicle, what contractual remedy does the landowner have against the vehicle owner? None. Therefore if there is no contractual basis and the vehicle owner did not consent to the contract, on what basis can he deprive the owner of the vehicle?
This argument derives from the fact that only pretty recently has it been argued (quite rightly) that the contract is with the driver and not the owner and registered keeper. So when a private company sends the registered keeper what is effectively an invoice he can reply with "I am not a party to a contract with you, the driver is the party to the contract, go and persue them." At this point the clamping company is a bit stuffed as they've no means of identifying who they've formed a contract with.
I doubt you will even see any authority for that proposition as the clampers know they don't have any argument in a county court, let alone a high court.
But they don't usually send an invoice (or do they? not been clamped in a few years!), they just fit the clamp and leave a notice on the window.
And short of picking the lock, how are you going to remove the clamp without resorting to criminal damage?
And short of picking the lock, how are you going to remove the clamp without resorting to criminal damage?
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simple realy. dont shop at asdause tescos 24 hr only and go at midnight when it much easyer to park
Thats what we do ,we have the shop to our selfs except staff and cages everywhere ! No screaming kids
But no customer service (so if you want to return something your out of luck )
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simple realy. dont shop at asda
Easier.
Tesco.com, you dont even need to use the car.
My local gym had a great way (well I doubt the owners thought so) of discouraging people from parking in inappropriate places.
One day I was walking in and this **** in a Ferrari 360 had parked right infront of the main doors in the private road making it almost impossible for any other cars to get past. It was pretty early and there were loads of spaces so he obviously wanted everyone to know what a big **** he had.
2 hours later when I'm leaving, the car's still parked there and they've stuck these ridiculously sticky bright yellow labels on all the windows.
Next day the same car's parked in a space a fair way from the entrance with glue smears all over where he's tried to peel them off.
They're probably lucky they didn't get sued but the message definitely seemed to get across.
One day I was walking in and this **** in a Ferrari 360 had parked right infront of the main doors in the private road making it almost impossible for any other cars to get past. It was pretty early and there were loads of spaces so he obviously wanted everyone to know what a big **** he had.
2 hours later when I'm leaving, the car's still parked there and they've stuck these ridiculously sticky bright yellow labels on all the windows.
Next day the same car's parked in a space a fair way from the entrance with glue smears all over where he's tried to peel them off.
They're probably lucky they didn't get sued but the message definitely seemed to get across.
Any day now, there are already some on here doing just that, instead of simply parking where they are supposed to...
exactly..if I am worried about my car doors I just park away from the other cars..I'm not so lazy I cant walk another 30 yards if I was worried about my car doors
people have no consideration these days..if they want to be awkward/mean spirited/ignorant/bone idle then thats up to them
just typical behaviour these days as far as I'm concerned
the asda in the town i grew up in has this problem. they put pay and display machines in, £1 for 2 hours. you get the pound off your shopping.
I hope you are not reffering to me. Despite my reasonable knowledge of the law relating to this issue I have never yet used to 'get away with' parking where I should not. When visting a supermarket I never use parent and baby spaces, I always park at the opposite end of the store the furthest from the exit in order to minimise the chance of having my car damaged by a selfish moron. Perhaps if I did use the wrong spaces I'd have avoided that dent I picked up on my door...
But just becuase I never use the spaces and leave them for their intended purpose doesn't mean I cannot find them infuriating. There are far too many 'Parent and Baby' spaces and their real purpose is nothing more than a marketing tool - they are there to present the 'Family friendly' face of the supermarket to customers and encourage customer loyalty. Don't for one minute think they are there out of the goodness of the supermarkets heart for no other reason.
It's just a shame that their prefferential treatment of parents leads to narrow spaces elsewhere which causes damage to the rest of their customers cars.
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They'd just have more "narrow" spaces, they wouldn't increase the size of the rest of the spaces in the car park would they
Like you I always park as far away as possible, even when I park in the middle of nowhere I seem to attract other cars
I hate pay and display in supermarkets. And those idiotic £1 tokens for shopping trolleys. What does that say - "If you only have notes in your wallet we won't let you shop"?
It's usually also £1 off your shopping if you buy over ££ of goods. I had a row with customer services at Sainsburys last summer, parked outside, grabbed ticket, walked into the shop and it turned out to be one of these shops kept only to finish off small businesses, prevent other supermarkets from building anything nearby and then presumed non profitable - you know the type - empty vegetable stalls at any point day or night, one hairy icecream in leaking freezer, two types of coffee on the shelf and munchies stock worthy of fuel station. Couldn't find most of items I was after, I was simply wasting my time, walked to customer services for parking ticket refund and they point blank refused. "Look" I said "it's not my fault - you have a huge shop, partitioned in half and almost nothing worth buying inside it, most of your sections are empty, I want a refund or I want to speak to your manager". They wasted good 20 minutes of my time trying to get someone's permission to refund it over the phone.
Going back to children and parent spaces. At some point by the end of the 20th century shopping trips, which until that point were just a neccessity, suddenly turned for human race into family attraction. On most busy day, when supermarket is full of people and is open shorter take your family to the shop, let the kid crawl all around floor, throw tantrums, cry in a long queue to the till, generally making already tiresome experience even more miserable for everyone. It's not like our childhood is full of memories of our mums dragging us by force all over frozen food section or ladies looking for our lost parents on tannoy but somehow this generation feels shopping with kids, is an attraction, quality time. And supermarkets, for some bizarre reason facilitate this sloppy parenting scheme, adding those "don't teach your kid not to slam doors wide open into other cars, teach them it's their god given right to have space to slam the doors" bays, junk food diners and strategically positioned low shelves, so the kid has all the synthetic sweets of this world at the level of his eyesight as you drag him along.
Parents. Just stop. Leave your kid at home, do your shopping alone, quicker and more efficiently, then spend more time with your family doing something together. Others will appreciate it. Just look how many people admitt to shopping in the middle of the night. You're spoiling it for everyone.
It's usually also £1 off your shopping if you buy over ££ of goods. I had a row with customer services at Sainsburys last summer, parked outside, grabbed ticket, walked into the shop and it turned out to be one of these shops kept only to finish off small businesses, prevent other supermarkets from building anything nearby and then presumed non profitable - you know the type - empty vegetable stalls at any point day or night, one hairy icecream in leaking freezer, two types of coffee on the shelf and munchies stock worthy of fuel station. Couldn't find most of items I was after, I was simply wasting my time, walked to customer services for parking ticket refund and they point blank refused. "Look" I said "it's not my fault - you have a huge shop, partitioned in half and almost nothing worth buying inside it, most of your sections are empty, I want a refund or I want to speak to your manager". They wasted good 20 minutes of my time trying to get someone's permission to refund it over the phone.
Going back to children and parent spaces. At some point by the end of the 20th century shopping trips, which until that point were just a neccessity, suddenly turned for human race into family attraction. On most busy day, when supermarket is full of people and is open shorter take your family to the shop, let the kid crawl all around floor, throw tantrums, cry in a long queue to the till, generally making already tiresome experience even more miserable for everyone. It's not like our childhood is full of memories of our mums dragging us by force all over frozen food section or ladies looking for our lost parents on tannoy but somehow this generation feels shopping with kids, is an attraction, quality time. And supermarkets, for some bizarre reason facilitate this sloppy parenting scheme, adding those "don't teach your kid not to slam doors wide open into other cars, teach them it's their god given right to have space to slam the doors" bays, junk food diners and strategically positioned low shelves, so the kid has all the synthetic sweets of this world at the level of his eyesight as you drag him along.
Parents. Just stop. Leave your kid at home, do your shopping alone, quicker and more efficiently, then spend more time with your family doing something together. Others will appreciate it. Just look how many people admitt to shopping in the middle of the night. You're spoiling it for everyone.
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They'd just have more "narrow" spaces, they wouldn't increase the size of the rest of the spaces in the car park would they
Like you I always park as far away as possible, even when I park in the middle of nowhere I seem to attract other cars
I've seen this first hand even today, people WILL park next to /a/ car - it gives them a sense of assurance that if some punks choose to vandalise a car theirs won't be the only one or the fact that their car is not alone might deter would be robbers etc.
Makes logical sense it's how the human mind works but it's a bit of a jib for us who look after our cars
Parents. Just stop. Leave your kid at home, do your shopping alone, quicker and more efficiently, then spend more time with your family doing something together. Others will appreciate it. Just look how many people admitt to shopping in the middle of the night. You're spoiling it for everyone.
The problem is lots of people lead very busy lives, both Mum's and Dad's now have to work so I think you'll have to put up with it I'm afraid!
As a parent I'm completey sick of the attitude towards us in this country, do you think parenting is easy, do you think parents want to have a wailing child in a supermarket of course they don't. My children are generally extremely well behaved and hold the trolley or stay close when shopping, they obviously do have their moments like any child!
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I have noticed these threads usually fall into two camps. The people who have shiney cars and don't want anybody going near them, and the people who actually have kids and understand how useful the facilities are.