Asked to resign

vonhelmet said:
You do if you can show that you were only jumping because you'd have been pushed otherwise.

They can't make him redundant if he isn't redundant. They can just fire him though.
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So what would one need to show that? Think I've got enough evidence already? Would it be feasible to get director to basically write, you're leaving to save us firing you... Would he even write that? (as it could put him in murkier water maybe?)
 
Xandos said:
So what would one need to show that? Think I've got enough evidence already? Would it be feasible to get director to basically write, you're leaving to save us firing you... Would he even write that? (as it could put him in murkier water maybe?)
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It would really depend on exactly what has been said and written and what the agreement says.

Hell, a lot of it could turn on how you feel, if you can put a compelling argument to the JSA people that you genuinely feared you would be fired and get nothing if you didn't choose to leave.

At the end of the day, they don't make this sort of offer if they don't want you gone.
 
Have another face to face meeting with them, take in a tape recorder (hide and dont tell), towards the end of meeting inform them that this is being record just for your records as you hand hurts and cant take written notes. then tell them you want 6 months salary gross or your staying..

If they do not agree tall them you will have to then take your recording to a tribrunal with you....
 
Reading through this thread I get the impression that your relationship at work has broken down irretrievably. To be honest, I suspect, as you too seem to believe, that it is largely down to your personality.

I believe that your employer probably sympathises with you and your position and is being pretty reasonable but has to look first to his company, other employees who may feel uncomfortable when you are about and his customers.

You too seem remarkably mature and sensible about the whole thing - for which, many congratulations!

Maybe you could win a bit by fighting everything, maybe you couldn't. Either way, you would almost certainly have a miserable, humiliating time and destroy any chance of getting a decent, positive reference.

Just accept it, learn from it and move on.

Whatever you decide, good luck to you, you sound like a decent guy :)
 
Have you called ACAS / spoken to a lawyer who specialises in employment law?

Both of these are free (usually, ACAS definitely is... lawyer wise it depends, but most will give you a free consultation)... and will only take up a little bit of your time.

Don't make any decisions until you've done both of the above... forget trying to get info from people who don't have a clue!
 
OP don't leave GD hanging

any further developments on this. I bet everyone who posted in here is interested to know the outcome to this one
 
Pauliee said:
You part of a UNION? Get them involved, unfair dismissal?
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Its not unfair dismissal if he resigns, its constructive dismissal, but having read the OP's post again I think it might even be hard getting a solid case for that although he should really of course ensure he has sought the correct legal advice before doing anything crazy :) although craziness means better story to report to the GDers :)
 
Wow.. so many people thinking this is a fight situation. Tbh, they've given you a life line.. the chance to leave without a black mark against your name.

It's either resign, or get fired.

No contest.
 
wildman said:
Its not unfair dismissal if he resigns, its constructive dismissal, but having read the OP's post again I think it might even be hard getting a solid case for that although he should really of course ensure he has sought the correct legal advice before doing anything crazy :) although craziness means better story to report to the GDers :)
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And even if he were to win a constructive dismissal case, it'd be a black mark on his CV with any future employers.
 
One thing to ask when you make your decision: ask them if you will get a reference if you resign.

Sorry if already answered. :)
 
The question is if he stays can he moderate his behaviour enough so they can't find more stuff to fire him with.

Normally as a boss I would apply extra pressure applied even if it takes a few months to get him sacked because most people regardless of what they say cannot moderate their behaviour and continue to act like they do leading to disciplinaries and the sack.
 
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