Asking someone where they are from

Yeah, she's playing the race card, she's literally wearing traditional African clothing and has an African name lmao
 
BowdonUK said:
You'd be ok asking me in Finland. But if I was black in that situation you'd think it would be racist?
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You seem very confused. I wouldn't ask anyone "where are you really from", "where are your people from", and then end the conversation with "I knew we'd get there in the end".
 
Roar87 said:
Yeah, she's playing the race card, she's literally wearing traditional African clothing and has an African name lmao
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Has she falsely accused someone of racist behaviour, or pointed out actual racist behaviour?

For a racist, anyone pointing out racism is playing the race card.
 
Junglist said:
She's playing the race card because her answer of where she was from wasn't good enough for the person asking.

Wild.
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Sure, and the question may have been worded badly, and indeed the woman might have felt offended because she is 100% British. In context though, if you're wearing traditional African clothing and have an African name, is it unreasonable for someone to ask where you're from? I doubt the woman asking the question intended to cause offence or did it in a malicious way.
 
Roar87 said:
Yeah, she's playing the race card, she's literally wearing traditional African clothing and has an African name lmao
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Seriously what point do you think you are making? It doesnt matter that she wasnt even actually wearing traditional african clothing. The point is. Where are you from? Hackney.
 
Roar87 said:
Sure, and the question may have been worded badly, and indeed the woman might have felt offended because she is 100% British. In context though, if you're wearing traditional African clothing and have an African name, is it unreasonable for someone to ask where you're from? I doubt the woman asking the question intended to cause offence or did it in a malicious way.
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Why’d she move the other woman’s hair out the way. What made her think it was appropriate for her to do that do you think?
 
Ahleckz said:
Why’d she move the other woman’s hair out the way. What made her think it was appropriate for her to do that do you think?
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I don't know, she's 83 though so maybe relax a little on being so judgmental. Plenty of 83 year old's have some cognitive decline.
 
I doubt there was any racist intent, but I would like to hear the exchange to see the tone and context.

[edit] just checking..

"Ms Fulani was at the reception at Buckingham Palace on Tuesday representing the London-based charity Sistah Space, which supports women of African and Caribbean heritage across the UK who have faced domestic and sexual abuse."
"Ms Fulani, in an interview with the Independent website, said the issue was "bigger than one individual. It's institutional racism"
"But afterwards, Ms Fulani described on Twitter how the royal aide moved her hair aside to see her name badge, and then challenged her to explain where she was from"

So it's an event for a charity that represents women of African and Carribean heritage, and someone asked where she is from , surely that might just be wonder what is her heritage based on the context of the event?
And considering her claims of institutional racism, why do I get the impression this is more likely grifting?
I'm just saying that in an age that Black History is seemingly 'vital' and part of the curriculum and considering the nature of the event, there is a lot of 'context' that could turn this from a ham fisted attempt to be interested and engaged in the purpose of the event, or a blatant racist act.

However, if it's precisely as she said on Twitter that she was 'challenged to explain where she was from' , that would indeed be terible and deserves this attention
 
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Ahleckz said:
Why’d she move the other woman’s hair out the way. What made her think it was appropriate for her to do that do you think?
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She wanted to see the woman's name badge I guess, in order to engage in conversation? Perhaps you'd rather than some mild and friendly intimacy she curtly demanded to see the woman's papers? ;)
 
The BBC interviewed this woman and a couple of things pop out -

Ms Fulani was at the reception representing her London-based charity, which supports women of African and Caribbean heritage across the UK who have faced domestic and sexual abuse.

"I'm very proud of my African heritage. This is like the Windrush thing to me. You're trying to make me unwelcome in my own space"

She clearly knew what was being asked and instead of answering something like "I'm from London, but my parents are originally from Africa" she doubled down on her stance of not revealing anything about her lineage making the whole situation more awkward than it needed to be. She clearly doesn't know how to behave in extremely formal settings and by going public on Twitter has shown herself up to be the type who looks for offence where ever they can find it and then has utilised that for publicity.

She should do some self reflection, she's an awful representative for her charity and if I was on the board I wouldn't risk sending her to any more events where potential sponsors could be forced to deal with her.
 
Roar87 said:
Sure, and the question may have been worded badly, and indeed the woman might have felt offended because she is 100% British. In context though, if you're wearing traditional African clothing and have an African name, is it unreasonable for someone to ask where you're from? I doubt the woman asking the question intended to cause offence or did it in a malicious way.
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And she told her where she is from. But the lady asking doubled down and asked the same question again. It doesn't matter what she was wearing she was asked "where are you from?" and she told her exactly where she was from.
It's just bizarre how this is made to be her fault or now she's playing a race card.

I presume this lady had been fairly well educated to hold the position she had. If she doesn't know the difference between "where are you from?" which is often meant in a literal geographical sense and "What is your heritage?" then that just shows poorly on her.
 
Moley said:
She clearly knew what was being asked and instead of answering something like "I'm from London, but my parents are originally from Africa" she doubled down on her stance of not revealing anything about her lineage making the whole situation more awkward than it needed to be.
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Indeed. The woman asking could have accused her of cultural appropriation- in wearing traditional African dress, using an African name and having dreads. That would have been funny :p
 
Rroff said:
That does seem quite insensitive especially the middle bit.
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Well, in a certain light it reads like a sequel to The Lusty Argonian Maid from the Elder Scrolls.

Lady Hussey: And where are you from, my dumpling?
Doesn't-Like-Questions: I am from Glenumbra, my lady. Land of mild climes, verdant trees and golden morns.
Lady Hussey: No, where do you come from?
Doesn't-Like-Questions: We're based in Hackney.
Lady Hussey: No, what part of Glenumbra are you originally from? Which village?
Doesn't-Like-Questions: I do not know, my lady. I am but a poor merchant girl.
Lady Hussey: Well, you must know which part you are from? I spent time in Bruma...
Doesn't-Like-Questions: Here, in Daggerfall.
Lady Hussey: No, but your people! You are of darker skin... maybe Sentinel or Craglorn? You are exotic and... quite different.
Doesn't-Like-Questions: Lady! What do you mean, "my people"? What is this literary extravagance? I know nothing of such things. Would you like to buy a gourd? Three for a septim.
Lady Hussey: Oh, I can see this is going to be quite a challenge to get you to speak on this matter. How about you come back to my mansion so we can... fill in some... details?
Doesn't-Like-Questions: I have to be in Crosswych by sunset... but maybe you could help shine my dynamo core? It hasn't had attention for quite some time.
Lady Hussey: Ah, I knew we'd get there in the end. Plenty of time, my sweet. Plenty of time.
 
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