** ASUS DO IT AGAIN: IPS, 144Hz & FREESYNC!!! Asus MG279Q thread **

Hi all, been fan of forum and avatars for some time :) so decided to join.

Can someone please help me. I'm interested in MG279Q, and so far everyone is aware of his limitation, but I am much more worried that the cards such as 7970 can not even drive 144Hz, without freesync?!?...and over DisplayPort!

Is this because of Radeon or one more low point of MG279Q?
 
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To be honest I'm not seeing the FreeSync limit as being too much of an issue, purely because if this is confirmed to have the same panel as the Acer (which it more than likely is) and has virtually no input lag like the Acer, it's really the same display sans G-Sync for £200 less, or another way to put it, only £50 more than the very good Dell U2715H.

144Hz 1440p IPS with decent build quality, nice non-cheap-plastic bezels, for £500 sounds alright to me.

As for the Korean panels somebody previously mentioned...you get poor warranty service, shoddy build quality, poor calibration, what are likely to be second rate panels, and historically speaking shoddy power supplies and more. Not really an alternative.
 
But if you go over 90 FPS with Vsync on thats gonna dump back down to 60fps, no?

not as i understand it, no. if you have it set to use Vsync when out of FreeSync range (above 90Hz on this model) then it wilkl cap it at 90Hz maximum
 
not as i understand it, no. if you have it set to use Vsync when out of FreeSync range (above 90Hz on this model) then it wilkl cap it at 90Hz maximum

So basically, if you want 0 screen tearing (which lets admit, is the whole point of freesync/gsync monitors) you're "limited" to 90hz...
 
So basically, if you want 0 screen tearing (which lets admit, is the whole point of freesync/gsync monitors) you're "limited" to 90hz...

well FreeSync is there to eliminate tearing without introducing the lag/stutter of vsync, but i get your point. but yes, if you want absolutely no tearing you would have 90 Hz maximum on this model. Although to be fair, at 2560 x 1440 thats still a fairly hefty graphics demand
 
well FreeSync is there to eliminate tearing without introducing the lag/stutter of vsync, but i get your point. but yes, if you want absolutely no tearing you would have 90 Hz maximum on this model. Although to be fair, at 2560 x 1440 thats still a fairly hefty graphics demand
That's a good point. It's not really an issue that single 290x user such as myself, and anyone that prefer single GPU over crossfire should worry about as I doubt it would have graphic grunt to push 90fps+ at 2560 res in modern games.

The chances are even if the 390x was "slower" than crossfire 290 or 290x, the minimum frame rate would most probably be higher on the 390x with the single GPU I think.
 
It's not the minimum fps that's the problem really it's the fact that if your fps is fluctuating over and below 90 a lot then freesync will be switching on and off which will definitely be noticeable.

I just can't understand why they would limit the maximum that far below the 144hz spec, 120hz would have been acceptable but 90 is just a huge turn off for me.
 
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let's wait for official word from Asus (rep is checking) and some actual third party tests before we all get too disappointed!

Thanks Baddass, and everyone who provided feedback.

I don't have an immediate press release style response, but what I'd like to pass onto all of you at OcUK is that:

- it has been confirmed that there is presently a 90 Hz FreeSync cap
- I have alerted our team about everyone's concerns, and they have told me it's a priority that they'll be looking into this week
- it was capped for a reason, though I haven't had the specifics confirmed and ready to share, and furthermore I hope that we'll be able to give users the choice, if there are potential drawbacks >90 Hz
 
I also would be more than happy even if the cap was at 120hz, heck I rather have the refresh rate at 120 instead of 144hz anyway as from what I have read about the swift, it sounds like 144hz is really pushing it for that panel, some people have it running at 120hz and say it seems to be better than 144, it avoids some problem???
 
well FreeSync is there to eliminate tearing without introducing the lag/stutter of vsync, but i get your point. but yes, if you want absolutely no tearing you would have 90 Hz maximum on this model. Although to be fair, at 2560 x 1440 thats still a fairly hefty graphics demand

Could you not set it to vsync to 120fps? As others have said, I'm not massively concerned about this as freesync was a bit of a bonus for me (especially since I'm a crossfire user who couldn't use it anyway just yet), but I'd like to make sure I know 100% what I'm getting!
 
Regarding the 144hz problem:

Yup - I only got it fairly rarely - mostly in BF4 looking at the sun (and then only in random circumstances not easily reproduced) or 1-2 other places - goes away completely for me at 120Hz (another reason why I run mine at 120) and apparently isn't unusual for 144Hz panels not just this one.

Gotta be honest I run mine at 120Hz most of the time - for various reasons. I only enable gsync in certain games.

My gut instinct is that these panels are being pushed to the max at 144Hz exposing any weakness in panels that are less than 110% robust that would otherwise be fine with 120Hz which is my theory for the failures though I might be completely wrong. I don't see any difference personally between 120Hz and 144Hz in terms of response or smoothness and 144Hz has some motion artefacts that completely go away at 120 - so I'm treating it as a 120Hz panel and couldn't be happier with it as long as it doesn't die heh.

I'm assuming its the "screen door"/inversion type artefacts at 144Hz as mentioned earlier in the thread - if it bothers you try at 120Hz I don't get them at all at 120.

On mine the screen door effect didn't even show up that much at first - can't remember exactly how long but it was over a week before it started being very noticeable (progressively worse though seems to have stopped getting worse now) in certain situations where it wasn't doing it at all out the box - but it only shows at 144Hz (so far) 120Hz has been perfect. If it continues to work flawlessly as a 120Hz 2560x1440 panel with gsync I'll be perfectly happy.

IIRC, quite a few others reported the same although I can't remember who they were.
 
That's either a faulty one or the issue isn't the monitor itself as he's said it wasn't unusual for other 144hz monitors.

He also stated at 120hz he only enables gsync in certain games anyway so it's not like he's using 120hz to fix an issue. Looks like he just prefers the screen without it for some reason.

I've certainly not seen any reports of late in the Swift thread about 144hz being a problem.
 
Either way, is there really any need to "push" these monitors any further than "needed"? I doubt anyone outside of pro/competitive CS gaming could tell the difference between 120 and 144 :p
 
Probably not but the higher number looks better :p

Yup got to have that epeen marketing term! :p

You laugh, but you may know that the MG279Q when announced was a 120 Hz monitor as we hadn't gained 144 Hz accreditation at that stage - though it was always planned.

I genuinely received messages (not on OcUK though) sent to me complaining that if it was only 120 Hz and not 144 Hz they weren't interested and why even bother releasing it.

So to some people, it apparently does make a big difference. Whether you could actually tell between 120 and 144 Hz in a double-blind test... I'm not so sure. But it's not just a case of marketing epeen :)
 
My list of requirements.

*No back light issues*
Decent static contrast
A true sub 10 MS response
A FreeSync range of something between 30-100Hz

I hope Asus don't get fixated on 144Hz! sub 1MS! ROG WFT or GTFO and **** this up:(
 
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