Asus Dual 4070 Super - Coil whine so bad I will have to return it? Anything I can do/try first?

[NeilF]

So if the card is running at a high frame rate it literally sings/buzzes a tune it changes from scene to scene. I had it first just moving around the menus in Call of Duty until I selected vsync in Menus.

If I run the Wargame Red Dragon option to test graphics performance it literally sings different squealing notes because I assume it's running a max frame rate as it tries difference scenes to test performance.

So far, if I vsync in games, the buzz it inaudible.



EDIT: Actually - If I try that Wargame Red Dragon test option on my old system with an MSI 1070, I get some squeal on that too, but it's less. Half the volume if not less... Is coil whine predominantly down to very high FPS rather than high work?

 

[Tetras]

s coil whine predominantly down to very high FPS rather than high work?

It depends, sometimes they even coil whine more at idle But, usually it is high FPS and not high work, yeah. High work is often good for mitigating coil whine, because the FPS is low.

Undervolting or power limiting can have a surprisingly large (mostly positive) influence on coil whine too.

 

[cjgardens]

Is it definitely coming from your GPU. A psu can also do it. I didn't notice it on this PSU i have until i upgrade the gpu and now its pulling more power.

Anyway, i have read that if you loop a stress test like furmark for a while it can 'bed them in' not sure how true that is tho

 

[Marak]

This is the absolute worst aspect of buying a GPU nowadays, and there's no way to avoid it except blind luck.

"Solutions" involve reducing your framerate or power consumption/performance to levels below what the card was sold at.

At best you will be lucky enough to undervolt your GPU to get the stock performance at -15% wattage and reduce the whine to manageable levels. Mostly I found you need to fine tune an undervolt and reduce performance by 5-10% and wattage by 25-30% to reduce it enough. This is with the experience of maybe a dozen GPU's over the last few years (mining boom).

It's a complete crapshoot, you can buy the exact same card from the exact same manufacturer and one will be sweet and silent with the other screeching at you like a jilted girlfriend.

As you might have guessed I am so bloody sick of this situation. Manufacturers need to sort it out as I'm tempted to stay with my relatively low whining 7900XT indefinitely.

 

[NeilF]

I think it's going to have to go back to Overclockers

If I run Red Dead Redemption for example, which is pretty much vsync locked at 60fps at the moment, there's a constant very audible buzz/whine which I can hear from across the room Will it reduce/go with time?

Risk another replacement Asus Dual 4070 Super, or go for something else?

 

[tommybhoy]

I think it's going to have to go back to Overclockers

Best making a quick YT vid to show them how loud it whines.

 

[NeilF]

What's odd, is even with Red Dead Redemption 2, vsync'd to 60fps, with the gpu being used well under 50%, there's a very audible buzz that goes up and down slighlty in tone as the scene changes...

Turn off vsync, and it gets even louder...

 

[Tetras]

Will it reduce/go with time?

Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. If it is really bad, I'd be surprised if it did.

People on here have reported success doing things like this:

Anyway, i have read that if you loop a stress test like furmark for a while it can 'bed them in' not sure how true that is tho

But, it's kind of kill or cure

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[NeilF]

I've played around for hours and even tried Asus GPU Tweak all to no effect. The buzz/whine is untenable. Requesting a replacement/return etc

 

[eeii]

I've played around for hours and even tried Asus GPU Tweak all to no effect. The buzz/whine is untenable. Requesting a replacement/return etc

If it’s that bad I don’t think you had much choice.

 

[NeilF]

Not sure I trust a like for like replacement. I believe the Asus Dual's have a bit of a bad rep as regards this issue

 

[Coolasmoo]

If its new and you still have the option to return/reject it then do it.

Not only have you got to live with it, it will effect its resale if you ever try to sell it.

 

[Tetras]

Not sure I trust a like for like replacement. I believe the Asus Dual's have a bit of a bad rep as regards this issue

One person says theirs was fixed after a few days:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/19a560v/comment/kikaq5s/

Most of the others don't seem to be though.

 

[NeilF]

That was interesting.

I plugged the monitor into the onboard motherboard/GPU, NOT THE 4070, and booted up and ran Red Dead Redemption 2... and COIL WHINE.

I had to take the 4070 out of the PC and repeat the above to then get no coil whine, and the expected much lower FPS.


So clearly, even though I was plugged into the onboard GPU, when I ran a game, the 4070 was being utilised/used! Interesting!

 

[Tetras]

So clearly, even though I was plugged into the onboard GPU, when I ran a game, the 4070 was being utilised/used! Interesting!

Ryzen 7000 has undocumented passthrough

 

[NeilF]

Ryzen 7000 has undocumented passthrough

Made me thing the motherboard was the culprit of the buzzing for a moment, until I worked out even though the monitor was plugged into the motherboard, the NVidia 4070 was clearly still be used for the graphics...

 

[NeilF]

Tempted to power the 4070 differently from the PSU to see if that changes the whine. There is a cable with the PSU but I don't know if I can use it to connect the GPU to two PCIe 8 pins sockets on the PSU - https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...6pin-pcie-trying-to-stop-coil-whine.18985403/

 

[NeilF]

Done! GPU powered from two 8pin PCIe sockets instead of the single 16pin dedicated one...

Coil whine identical...

 

[Wing-Man]

much vsync locked at 60fps at the moment

turn off Vsync.
i have a 6950xt thats as whine but only at low FPS. @ 100 is there but at 250 is ok

 

[NeilF]

Oh, turning vsync off makes RDR2 even worse.

Futuremark is bad as well for example.