Asus P5Q-E (P45) Motherboard Review

Has anyone got IDE drives to work with this mobo?

I've been using all SATA until my Samsung DVD writer stopped reading this afternoon. It's hardly been used and isn't the only one according to the reviews on the OcUK site.

While that's on RMA I thought I'd use my old IDE burners that have worked fine for years and years but I can't get either of them to work. I've tried Master and Slave, Black and Grey, all to no avail. I've even cleared CMOS. I'm stumped.

Looking online it would seem I'm not the only one.

All suggestions welcome before I have to stump up for another SATA drive so I can play ArmA 2 while my other drive is RMA.

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I'm using a IDE Optical drive with no issues? I was gonna say you have to have the JMicron Controller enabled in the BIOS but that would have been enabled by default if you reset BIOS :confused:
 
Wayne,

Thanks for getting back to me. Do you mean Marvell, or am I missing something?

If it's the Marvell IDE in Onboard Device Configuration do you have the boot ROM enabled as well or not? (I've tried both).

How is your drive set up: Master, Slave or CS?
What cable do you have plugged in: black or grey?

I'm clutching at straws as I know both drives I've tried work fine in my other PC.

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Darkman said:
Do you mean Marvell, or am I missing something?
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Sorry I meant the Marvell IDE controller! :p:o

There is nothing to it, it's just a bog standard IDE cable and a normal IDE DVD-Rom connected as Master.

I think you may have a faulty cable or your drives are a bit old perhaps? if both cable and drive and known working good and you have the BIOS on defaults then I'm not sure what to suggest? Perhaps the IDE connector on the board is damage or? :confused:

When you say you can't get either of your drives to work what does that mean? . . like do they power up? can they be seen in the BIOS?
 
Both drives and cable were working fine in old PC.

I'll dig out the cable that came with the mobo just in case though, then it's time to bite the bullet and buy a 'spare'.

Thanks Wayne for helping.

BTW I've recently changed from Q9450 to Q9550 to join the 4GHz club and was amazed at how the 9550 needed GTL tweaking to achieve 470FSB where the Q9450 was perfectly happy on Auto. Your earlier posts had already helped me with NB GTL, now add the CPU to the list ;)

Still can't get past 470FSB Prime stable on sensible volts though :(

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You were both right.

I dug the oem cable out of the mobo box and it worked. Don't ask me why when the old one works fine on my old Abit board but who cares.

Thank you both for getting me to check ;)

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The cable you may have used before could simply have been differently wired, I know there are two distinct types of IDE cables and have found some dont work with certain boards. Ive not used IDE for ages but I think it has something to do with the way the cable is setup for cable select.
 
Sorry if this has been answered before but I have seen the P5Q SE and wondered what was different in this version when compared to the E version. The chipset cooling looks different otherwise I am thinking the same?
 
The ASUS P5Q SE is a cut down version, no Crossfire, no RAID, no Firewire, no eSata, no Silicon Image Sil5723 (Drive Xpert technology), no Stack Cool 2, 4-Phase power and a really badly place 24-pin ATX Socket!

Apart from that it's a P5Q-E! :p

 
Big.Wayne said:
The ASUS P5Q SE is a cut down version, no Crossfire, no RAID, no Firewire, no eSata, no Silicon Image Sil5723 (Drive Xpert technology), no Stack Cool 2, 4-Phase power and a really badly place 24-pin ATX Socket!
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Apart from that it's a P5Q-E! :p

Thanks, I think and I see what you mean. The Titan NK85TZ gets a good write up, would such a beast fit to this motherboard?
 
I’ve a P5Q and up until reading big wayne’s comments on GTL's, I was about to sell it and move back to my IP35pro.

I got the asus to drop my total system wattage (like wayne I’m a low voltage overclocker) but was really disappointed
that they went up 15w or so at load to 155w (I’ve one of those wall meters)

What it did allow me to do was drop the vcore. Minimum on the Abit was 1.35v, but my e6600 would run at 1.1v on the Asus.
This dropped the system usage back down to 130w so all was forgiven. I got a E8200es and some transcend aXe for a bargain
but after an hour I gave up as nothing would get these to run stable at anything but stock/auto settings.

Anyway took out the aXe and replaced it with my work-in-anything Geil 667 sticks as was getting a random reboots
every few days or it would just refuse to post :( but needed a work pc

Tweeked the 2 GTL’s the p5q has last night (cpu to 0.67, NB to .62) and had it running stable at 376
752 is about the limit of my 667 ram at 4,4,4,16. (and dropped my vcore from 1.3 to 1.2 to 1.1 and up to 1.125v)
CPU 1.125v, NB 1.2, Ram 2.05

Ran out of time to play with the setting further or use different ram, still think the vanilla version is rubish but for the first time
I can see potential with this board. So you have my thanks wayne and any other helpful tips are apreacheated.
 
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Big.Wayne said:
That's quite funny Will, that's the exact same comparison I made. I did a networking course years ago and struggled with Subnet Masking, I think GTL-Refs are about the same level of complexity! :o

Personally when I meet a subject that baffles me I just throw myself in the deep end. Most of the articles on GTL refs went straight over my head but I kept reading them again and again and slowly but surely some of it starts to stick! :cool:

I've just swapped out a retail E8400 for an OEM E8400 and interestingly enough the previous chips GTL settings are not quite right so it does seem these settings are on a per-chip-basis and one persons settings won't work for someone else!

My Board cannot run 500MHz-FSB stably with the three GTL settings on [Auto], I don't know if that is my specific board or combination of hardware or just the fact the P5Q-Family isn't finely tuned much above 400MHz-FSB?

Anyways I am doing some new GTL tweaking with my set-up and my previous (limited) experience and observations seem to be helping me on!

With GTL Data-ref0 set at x63 windows won't boot, at x64 it boots windows but fails IBT/5 loops,at x65 it passes 10 loops of IBT. All other GTL-Refs were on [Auto] at this point. I then started to do longer IBT runs (20 loops) and the PC rebooted so I turned my attention to the NB-GTL which was on [auto], I changed that to x62 and it passed IBT 20 loops again and again.

Still in the middle of testing but from what I have experienced so far these are my quick tips . . .

You don't need to pump vNB and vTT as much as people have made out, the maximum vNB I have needed so far is 1.22v, the maximum vTT I have needed is 1.18v, that's for 500MHz-FSB, 4.0GHz CPU, 562.5MHz-NBCC and DDR2-1200!

Another thing I have to mention (but not GTL related) is that CPU-PLL needs to be raised from 1.52v for certain chips once you really start pushing it. My first chip would reboot the system under stress with PLL set at 1.52 but stability was regained by upping the PLL. I only mention this because you see a lot of people saying PLL doesn't need to be raised. If your in doubt then just turn PLL to [auto] until you have time to test it further.

Regading GTL tweaks it seems the first CPU one needs to be raised (up from x63) and the NB GTL needs to be lowered (down from x63).

Since the current settings have passed Prime, IBT etc I have just left the machine to fold for a few days so I can build confidence it is robust before I push on the clock . . . below screenshot is now as the sun burns down on London town! :cool:

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Thanks for that, only just read it as I forgot all about it with other things :p

So when overclocking I should just start from the lowest GTL ref for ref 0 and work up untill it boots, then when it becomes unstable increment it again, then try upping the other ref's by one?


Thanks
Will
 
Lo Guys,

Only just got around to looking at my rig and getting it setup...

Was wondering about these terms as they wernt on my old BIOS and Ive just upgraded to 2201 (EZ Flash 2 is awesome):

CPU Clock Skew (AUTO)
NB Clock Skew (AUTO)
CPU Margin Enhancement (Optimized)

I cant find anything specific about clock skews, but I was aware that CPU Margin Enhancement was a new feature which ended up affecting overclocks for some reason. Im tempted to leave them set as above but like to understand what they are for etc...

Just want my rig up and running first and then Ill start ocing and then eventually look at GTLs, Clock Twister and tRDs as these seem to be the things to get the best out of my rig. Got a good setup and really want to abuse it - only have a e5200 but will get a q9550 after Ive got it all sorted...

TIA

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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