ASUS RT-56U Padavan FW, Setting Up as Access Point.

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I have a Asus RT-56U router which as the Padvan Firmware installed on it and im trying to use it as an 'access point', from default settings if i enable the access point mode after the setting has been applied i get the text on a white screen....

"Settings have been updated. Web page will now refresh.
Changes have been made to the IP address or port number. You will now be disconnected from RT-N56U.
To access the settings of RT-N56U, reconnect to the wireless network and use the updated IP address and port number."

After this im unable to access the router anymore its changed the ip address and i havent a clue what it is, using 'ipconfig /all' in command prompt doesnt show the routers ip address.

If i look on my ipad and connect to the ASUS router it lists the Router IP address as the same address that my main Linksys router use, so how do i connect to the ASUS router in the future if i ever need to change any settings??
 
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It's probably picking up its IP from the dhcp on the Linksys router. If the router can't tell you i'd download an IP scanner and scan your whole network range.
 
Tried running an IP Scanner but it didnt find the Asus Router, or though it managers to get the actual IP address of the PC that the Asus router )in access point mode) is connected to, but not the router itself!
 
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Space Monkey said:
Had this on an Asus AC87, rebooted the laptop and tried the correct ip again and it worked first time :)
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Yeah tried that and no joy.

I have noticed though since using this Asus RT-56U as an access point, that if either it or my Linksys EA-6900 router (main router with Virgin SH2 in Modem Mode) get power off my Gateway IP address gets change from what i have set it as to some random IP address, any ideas why this happens?
 
The joys of custom firmware.

Does tracert show LAN hops? may be worth a try. Can you look at the DHCP log of your Linksys as it may hold the IP for the Asus.
 
Steveocee said:
The joys of custom firmware.

Does tracert show LAN hops? may be worth a try. Can you look at the DHCP log of your Linksys as it may hold the IP for the Asus.
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Im not sure how to use tracert to be fair.

When using a wireless router as an excess point are you supposed to give it a completely different subnet or Gateway address that what your main router uses, for example if my main router has a gateway IP of 192.168.100.2, should i set the access point router to 192.168.100.3 or does it have to be drastically different like 192.168.1.2??
 
There is no set right or wrong, it depends on what you are trying to achieve or do.

In your situation id treat it as a flat network.

If your "main" router is doing the NAT and dhcp on (for example) 192.168.1.1 and giving out addresses 192.168.1.10-192.168.1.254 then I'd put your additional wireless AP at 192.168.1.2 with its gateway as the main router.

If your wireless AP starts having to NAT and sit on different ranges then it's starts routing and is more an additional and in my opinion pointless router rather than a wireless AP.
 
Steveocee said:
There is no set right or wrong, it depends on what you are trying to achieve or do.

In your situation id treat it as a flat network.

If your "main" router is doing the NAT and dhcp on (for example) 192.168.1.1 and giving out addresses 192.168.1.10-192.168.1.254 then I'd put your additional wireless AP at 192.168.1.2 with its gateway as the main router.

If your wireless AP starts having to NAT and sit on different ranges then it's starts routing and is more an additional and in my opinion pointless router rather than a wireless AP.
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Yeah thats how i had it setup, but the 2 dont appear to be playing nicely, as in my Gateway IP address for my main router keeps getting changed despite me setting it to a certain IP.

Heres the setup i have.....

Virgin SuperHub 2 (modem mode) 192.168.100.1
Linksys EA9600 (main wireless router) 192.168.100.2
Asus RT-56U (access point) 192.168.100.3

The asus is attached to the linksys via a super long ethernet cable btw. Im not sure why my Gateway IP decides to change itself every now and again!?

Maybe me not being able to detech what IP address is given to the Asus when its changed to AP Mode and the Gateway IP address changing on my Linksys is linked?
 
If your Super Hub is in modem mode then your main router needs to be using a different subnet.

The Linksys should be handling the NAT and using something like 192.168.1.n for the LAN. The Asus then needs a IP in the 192.168.1.n range.
 
bremen1874 said:
If your Super Hub is in modem mode then your main router needs to be using a different subnet.

The Linksys should be handling the NAT and using something like 192.168.1.n for the LAN. The Asus then needs a IP in the 192.168.1.n range.
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Something like this....

SH2.......192.168.100.1
Linksys...192.168.1.1
Asus.......192.168.1.2

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Is it also a good idea to setup a static IP for internet on the Linksys?..how does this differ for setting up a static ip for my PC or are they the same thing?
 
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Those IPs look fine.

You should be able to leave the WAN on the Linksys configured to use DHCP. I can't see any reason not to.

Make sure you exclude the IP you use for the Asus from the DHCP range the Linksys is using.

If you're using static IPs on the LAN look at using DHCP reservations instead. You get the same result but gain centralised management.
 
lettuce said:
Heres the setup i have.....

Virgin SuperHub 2 (modem mode) 192.168.100.1
Linksys EA9600 (main wireless router) 192.168.100.2
Asus RT-56U (access point) 192.168.100.3
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If you are using the hub in modem mode, set youe Linksys to gain it's IP dynamically. It won't be handed a 192.168.100.X address as the SH is only a modem and not routing.

Your Linksys should get a WAN IP address, change the Linksys' LAN IP address to something more conventional for a router (such as 192.168.1.1) and then your ASUS to 192.168.1.2 with it's default gateway to 192.168.1.1.

Sounds like you're trying to force your router to use the VM SH as it's gateway through it's LAN address which you don't need to do.
 
I have tired the above but as soon as i set the ASUS to AP mode then i lose thw ability to connect to it beacuse i can not longer find its IP address. Maybe its a bug with the Padvan Firmware and should just got back to the official ASUS FW??

If i set a static IP address for the Linksys does that have to be the same static IP i have set for my PC connected to the Linksys?, as atm i have the ip for my PC set to 192.168.1.4

EDIT: Ive gone into the trouble shooting section on the Linksys menu, and its listing the ASUS rouer on ip 192.168.1.6, i have tried entering that in my browser but its not connecting at all
 
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What are you using the custom firmware for? In honesty I've had 2 of the N56's on stock firmware all their lives and I never felt I was missing anything.

If you're using it as an AP then save yourself the headache and stick it back to stock FW.
 
Steveocee said:
What are you using the custom firmware for? In honesty I've had 2 of the N56's on stock firmware all their lives and I never felt I was missing anything.

If you're using it as an AP then save yourself the headache and stick it back to stock FW.
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Is seems to give me a cleaner siginal on the 5GHz band, have a Roku device and when i was using the Official FW the signal was hit and miss, but with the custom FW is seemed a lot better, no buffering and worked all the time.

Does anyone know if the Padvan Firmware had different default setting for the wireless 5GHz over the Official FW at all?
 
lettuce said:
Something like this....

SH2.......192.168.100.1
Linksys...192.168.1.1
Asus.......192.168.1.2

?

Is it also a good idea to setup a static IP for internet on the Linksys?..how does this differ for setting up a static ip for my PC or are they the same thing?
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Well the above ip settings didn't help, woke up this morning and my routers gateway ip address has been changed again!.

Do I need to have my virgin superhub, linksys router and Asus router all on different subnets?, or even have the Asus on a completely different gateway ip (if that's possible) to stop the Asus changing my linksys's gateway ip randomly??
 
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