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It would knacker their economy, like health and safety and Green legislation and taxation has knackered our own, leave `em be.
At least 100 Dead in Train Derailment
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It would knacker their economy, like health and safety and Green legislation and taxation has knackered our own, leave `em be.
I can't be the only one who wishes he had slipped.
RIP to the innocent victims of this, but couldn't give a stuff about idiots and train surfers.
what some odd thoughts, they paid peanuts and they lack health and safety as its a very poor nation, they cant afford to implement h&s like we do, the cost per person is huge, I've heard figures of $5000 per person for uk standards. yet their gdp per head is less than $1500, compared to our $41000 per capita.
also odd that you wont use those things like trains ween road deaths are much higher in such countries.
rip to those that died.`
what a loevly out look you have, some of the poorest people in the world, who have no other choice and you couldn't care less. lovely.
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H&S implementation at our current levels costs over 12% of our GDP each year?
I wonder is it is actually "Worth" it? :/
They are looking at you to gauge whether you will back down and brake for them or not.
Pardon my ignorance but cylinder of what?
So basically you are saying India needs more Indians? I think in some of the most populace Asian and African countries a health and safety act may do no favours for the growth in their population levelDisaster and famine are their main birth control!
No. Improved education and career opportunities for women are provably the most effective way to reduce populations in any given nation. Losses of population through accident, war or famine are quickly replaced. Availability of birth control and enabling women to have opportunities other than being used to make children lead to immediate and long-term reduction in population.
You must work in a very low-skilled environment if you think the cost of safety precautions exceeds the savings from not having people die, injured so they cannot work or requiring welfare support or healthcare to recover, et al.
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I imagine he was tack welding a gas cylinder to the deck
I was afraid that was what was meant. What exactly do some people have between their ears?
That only applies to countries/economies that provide welfare support or healthcare.
Low skilled in India ( and similar countries ) - cheaper to get another employee
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People can be stupid, some "travellers" stole a load of supposedly empty oxygen cylinders out of a bottle cage on a site nearby and not wanting to hump the steel cylinders far started knocking the brass flow valves off them with a sledge hammer. The problem was one wasn't empty and set off like a rocket into one of his pals. The bottle won, of course, and apparently the scene was rather messy
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Carbon dioxide cylinder for mig welding. Not something you want to put a lot of heat into...
No it doesn't. Indians will support a family member that is injured. Whether paid by the state or taken up by private citizens and subtracted from the overall amount of spending and investment, injured people are a drain on the economy. You didn't think this through. Further, companies will still have to provide cover for an absent employee or train up a replacement for one that has died. Even low-paid agricultural or factory jobs frequently require skill and experience to do well. Not to mention that a disaffected work force (because they see people being killed or hurt) has low moral and works less effectively.
Only someone with a pre-decided point to prove would try to claim that workplace death and injury aren't costs on society and only someone who did not examine it at all would conclude that such costs are below the cost of, for example, making people wear a hard hat, etc.
I'll go out on a limb here, and condense it
The majority of Indian ( and similar ) economy is export - mass produce as cheap as possible.
The employers in these companies have little, to no regard, to the safety, and welfare, of their employees.
You only have to look at factory fires etc. so see that human life is expendable if you can cut costs.
The people in charge of these ' standards ' are also Indian ( and similar ) and do not protest at, or demand improvements in, safety standards - They put their jobs before the safety of the fellow countrymen.
So don't paint a glossy picture, when the truth is hard to swallow.
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What you're talking about there is taking back control of the roads. Eyeballing you to make sure your going to stop and if not able to get out the way.
It'll obviously be controvercial but it's a way of slowing down and reasserting the right of deeds trains to cross the road safely without car drivers just completely ignoring them and not stopping when they should.
And you don't think it would be exactly the same here given the chance?
People have to work, so are forced to take jobs in locations that may be dangerous. They don't do it by "choice", but by need.
From my slight knowledge of Indian railways the first two or three coaches in the formation tend to be "General Second", which are the unreserved seating cars (if you consider wooden benches as acceptable seats). They tend to be packed solid, basically all those travelling on the cheapest possible fare or who weren't able to get space in higher level accommodation (though by all accounts even "Sleeper" class is fairly crowded and squalid). So sadly maybe 150 or more people packed in those vehicles - which don't look to have the crash survivability of Western rolling stock - and you get an appalling death toll.
R.I.P. All those who lost their lives.
R.I.P. All those who lost their lives.