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Athlon 3000 showing as 'amd engineering sample 00'

God knows, Just download everest to monitor your temps & clock the bejesus out of it.
 
Its saying the core speed is only 801 mhz. What should the core speed of a 3000+ be?

How do I go about overclocking it. I've only got a crappy asrock motherboard I'm not going to be able to clock nothing out of it.
 
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warren_1979 said:
Its saying the core speed is only 801 mhz. What should the core speed of a 3000+ be?
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Stock speed should be 1.8ghz, did these chips cave Cool and Quiet technology? Could explain it, either that or your jumper settings are wrong.
 
FSB/HT will obv be set to 200mhz in bios and then set multi to 10x as its a 2GIG CPU. if 754 socket

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-3000.html

Look down page a bit at CPU-Z

Or if its a 939 socket its 200mhz x 9 Multi as its 1.8GiG

Edit, Im a bit confused :confused:

" AMD Athlon 64 3000+ processor for the mobile solutions available since the end of September 2003 works at 1.8GHz core frequency and has no other differences from the DTR Athlon 64 3200+. However, AMD decided to do a completely different thing this time: the new Athlon 64 3000+ works at the same 2GHz clock frequency as the elder Athlon 64 3200+ model "
 
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Listing says unlocked so it'll be an ES cpu. Might need a BIOS update to work it properly. Being a 3000+ Clawhammer (1mb) i'd say the 1.8Ghz speed is right, got a 3400+ Clawie here for client thats 2.2Ghz 1mb so a 3000+ would likely be a 1.8Ghz.
 
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Whats an ES CPU?

So what should I set my bios too? A multiplier of 9? Should I enable cool n quiet in the bios as its disabled. What if I can't turn my PC back on after I change the multiplier what do I need to do?

Also, my PC has just reset before I typed this. Why would I need I bios update to run this CPU and should I update the bios?
 
Something funny going on here. 754 Athlon 64 3000+ cpu's run at 2.0ghz (10x200). It's only the 939 and AM2 3000+ that runs at 1.8ghz.

ES cpu's can be very picky about motherboards and there is no guarantee that it will work properly even with an updated bios. If you update the motherboards bios to the latest version it may provide support for your cpu. Engineering samples are the ones sent out to the likes of motherboard manufacturers and review sites to use for testing purposes. They are usually pre final production so may use more power, run hotter or have compatiability issues. If they are used they could also have had a very hard life being clocked and abused.

To run at stock speeds you need to set the multiplier to 10x and the fsb to 200. Do not turn on C&Q otherwise it will be lowering the speed when idling. If it does'nt boot up after making changes to the multiplier and fsb then reset the cmos on your motherboard. You do it by either changing a jumper (should be labelled but check your mobo manual) or by taking out the battery for a short time.
 
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Thanks for the replies, much appreciated.

Well I've updated my Mobo to the latest revision, for what its worth. I then set the CPU to a multiplier of 9 in the BIOS (1.8GHZ). After a couple of dodgy restarts windows xp eventually loaded.

The CPU looked really mashed up and it looks like its had a hard life. I'm tempted to send the CPU back as the auction states it just an OEM 3000, which is all I wanted, not some bashed up pre-fab thingy that came from china (it was in a chinese plastic CPU holder).

Can someone recommend a good CPU stress program please so I can see if its working OK.

Thanks.
 
warren_1979 said:
Thanks for the replies, much appreciated.

Well I've updated my Mobo to the latest revision, for what its worth. I then set the CPU to a multiplier of 9 in the BIOS (1.8GHZ). After a couple of dodgy restarts windows xp eventually loaded.

The CPU looked really mashed up and it looks like its had a hard life. I'm tempted to send the CPU back as the auction states it just an OEM 3000, which is all I wanted, not some bashed up pre-fab thingy that came from china (it was in a chinese plastic CPU holder).

Can someone recommend a good CPU stress program please so I can see if its working OK.

Thanks.
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Try Prime95 or Orthos.
 
Seems there is actually a 1.8Ghz 1mb 3000+ Clawhammer.. would make sense for this to be one even if this was never released as its an ES cpu so prolly came before AMD made the 2Ghz 1mb version, if a decision was made to make it 2Ghz after.

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Ah man it seems to be bust. Keeps resetting the PC when set to 1800mhz, even resets sometimes when its just on 800mhz.

I've not had any luck getting a replacement Athlon at all. Bust the pins on my original one, then used fastmemoryman on ebay and he sent me a sempron 3000 instead of an athlon 3000 and isn't replying to his emails. Bought this one now its bust.
 
What're the temps? Also since its an enginerring sample the motherboard may be at a loss as to how to set the voltage etc.. try manually setting the volts to 1.5v in the BIOS for the cpu. This may be as well why its starting at 800MHz.
 
Strange one this. Is the FSB @ 200mhz? on s754 boards i think the max hypertransport is 800mhz so with 200mhz FSB a 4x multi would be right. If the FSB is anything over 200mhz then you need to use the the 3x multi. Probably not your problem but worth a quick look.
 
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Strange one this. Is the FSB @ 200mhz? on s754 boards i think the max hypertransport is 800mhz so with 200mhz FSB a 4x multi would be right. If the FSB is anything over 200mhz then you need to use the the 3x multi. Probably not your problem but worth a quick look.
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You're talking about the Hyper transport bus, hes talking about the actual cpu clockspeed :) The cpu could be borked or it could just be a case of the board not getting on well with it. Would reseat heatsink/reapply compound etc.. once more just to rule out overheating.
 
i read somewhere that engineering samples are illegal to sell or just not meant to be sold so you might wanna ask the guy you bought it off where he got it from. i could be wrong though. it probably wont overclock well even if its multi unlocked, ES-cpu's are the pre-retail release ones and are meant for testing purposes only, like for review sites so reviews are out on the release day of the cpu, and for motherboard manufacturers so bios'es are out before the release of the cpu.

edit: looking at that guys auctions he seems to have a lot of ES cpu's. there might be a real reason he has them, but he might be doing something illegal. ive noticed that guy has a return if it doesnt work policy (aka if the person he sells to's motherboard doesnt take ES cpu's), id try and do that asap, it seems like its not gonna work. and maybe even report it to ebay, or even directly to AMD that that guy is selling ES cpu's. theres another guy who is doing the same, on amd forums someone made a post about it. also this "other guy" is in the US and posts from birmingham, and this guy is in birmingham, possibly the same guy? this is why i dont ever buy anything off auction sites, the guy who possibly conned you and the "other guy" who has conned thousands of people need to be shutdown.
 
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Strictly speaking they're the property of AMD and were never intended to be released to the general public, only to a select few.
 
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