Atkins diet?

thanks for the posts some really helpful suggestions and some stupid comments too which im going to ignore

Im not making excuses with having asthma saying that general exercise and gym are hard for me.
please understand ive had asthma since birth 31 years! so i dont apprehcaite ppl telling me that im making excuses and being lazy for not doing exercises
i know my limits and general exercises and gym makes my asthma 100 times worse even with the strongest inhalers avaliable.
I can get away with doing situps pressups and swimming,walking maybe but anything else will stuggle.
will be starting the atkins next week, Thanks very much for the useful posts the majority of you have posted.

Edit: and just to add, some ppl might have the impression im really overweight as im comming across as lazy to a few ppl well im 16.5 stone i could be worse my goal is 12 stone and i will get there eventually one way or the other:)
 
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or the velocity diet now thats extreme, drink MRP shakes throughout the day for all meals and eat a proper meal ONCE A WEEK, its mad but I know lots of ppl who have lost shed loads.

P.S i have quite bad asthma and I go to the gym 3-4 times a week, exercise really does help your asthma improve, its hard to start off but you make improvements every week
 
Sanguinnus said:
care to back that up with some reasoning? I don't see why anything i've said there is incorrect, at least have the decency to pose an argument other than debasing my opinion with no supporting evidence
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Right at the part where you go on about carbs being in big supply = we should eat loads. Same can be said for fat, salt, sugar, calories, disease, etc.

You were also implying that atkins means no carbs.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
Right at the part where you go on about carbs being in big supply = we should eat loads. Same can be said for fat, salt, sugar, calories, disease, etc.

You were also implying that atkins means no carbs.
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I must admit I picked up the same points.

Atkins = zero carbs for about 2 weeks.
If you stick to it religiously you will shed a load of weight but you are then supposed to add carbs and basically monitor your weight loss.
The people who do best on the Atkins are those who have will power and have worked out their daily carb intake.

Oh and another thing -
I watched a documentary where Dr Atkins says he tried the Atkins diet but he hadn't got the willpower either.
 
MrMoonX said:
or the velocity diet now thats extreme, drink MRP shakes throughout the day for all meals and eat a proper meal ONCE A WEEK, its mad but I know lots of ppl who have lost shed loads.

P.S i have quite bad asthma and I go to the gym 3-4 times a week, exercise really does help your asthma improve, its hard to start off but you make improvements every week
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Velocity diet is just a ketosis diet, which is all Atkins is. Its mostly for people who can't eat meat with just some lettuce, or can't stand 3/4 egg meals a day. Theres nothing fundamentally different between eating a normal atkins/keto/velocity diet, same micro/macro nutrient intakes, just from different sources.

As for Asthma, I'm not going to say much about it in his case as, as with most conditions people have it to varying degree's, he might simply have asthma thats so bad he can't exercise, you being able to and getting better from exercise doesn't mean his will.


dmpoole said:
I must admit I picked up the same points.

Atkins = zero carbs for about 2 weeks.
If you stick to it religiously you will shed a load of weight but you are then supposed to add carbs and basically monitor your weight loss.
The people who do best on the Atkins are those who have will power and have worked out their daily carb intake.

Oh and another thing -
I watched a documentary where Dr Atkins says he tried the Atkins diet but he hadn't got the willpower either.
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atkins isn't really about zero carbs, you'd be surprised what foods you can eat when you're allowed 20grams a day, thats lots of various types of veg you can eat ;)


Its also worth mentioning that different people have different carb tolerances, 20grams is a guideline to start from as "almost" no one needs less than 20grams to slip into ketosis, but a LOT of people will find they can eat a lot more than 20grams and get into ketosis. The amount of carbs to eat to get into ketosis, and the amount you can eat once in ketosis and stay in ketosis can be vastly different aswell.

I can tend to get into ketosis eating less than 50grams of carbs a day, maybe closer to 30grams, but once in i can eat closer to 100 grams and not slip out. THough i'll only have maybe 1 day here and there where I'll eat more carbs than normal. Last week we had a pizza during the footie, papa johns thin crust, extra large, had just over half, didn't drop out of ketosis from that which was probably 250grams at least.
 
There was a documentary on the Atkins diet on TV a while back. There were two groups, one on Atkins the other low fat diet. The bottom line was the Atkins works faster than the low fat diet by the simple process that the body gets fed up of the high fat (lean meat is 25% fat) Atkins diet and reduces hunger and that after 2 weeks although being allowed any amount & kind of meaty or fatty goodness the Atkins group were consuming less calories a day than the low fat diet followers.
 
Nick644622 said:
There was a documentary on the Atkins diet on TV a while back. There were two groups, one on Atkins the other low fat diet. The bottom line was the Atkins works faster than the low fat diet by the simple process that the body gets fed up of the high fat (lean meat is 25% fat) Atkins diet and reduces hunger and that after 2 weeks although being allowed any amount & kind of meaty or fatty goodness the Atkins group were consuming less calories a day than the low fat diet followers.
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The BBC did it about 2 years ago and took the 4 biggest diets on the market.
It was the biggest test done of its kind at the time and they even used identical twins on some tests.
Atkins proved to be the best for weight reduction because people eat less on a protein diet.
 
kmufc77 said:
thanks for the posts some really helpful suggestions and some stupid comments too which im going to ignore

Im not making excuses with having asthma saying that general exercise and gym are hard for me.
please understa..........
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But whats going to happen when the diet finishes? You cant live on the Atkins permenantly.
 
Weight loss occurs when you burn off more than you consume, as other have said.

Losing weight is easy. Keeping it off is ths difficult part.

You need to change your lifestyle and eating habits, not go on an extreme diet.

BB x
 
Good luck to you. Chances are it won't be particularly effective in the long term.

Salt is bad for you, like everything else, in excess. Whilst the oldschool 'RDA' way of measurement stipulates up to 6mg, the stated average dose necessary for optimum function is 1.8grms, added at the table/during cooking.

You are lazy; because you aren't making the effort to change the root cause of you being overweight, you're just looking for a quick fix. You eat too much and do too little. The reason you get out of breath is you're unfit.

Many breathing difficulties can be helped and completely cured with exercise. I used to have bad asthma, now I never have to use my inhaler. Initially I took two puffs 15 minutes before exercise, this cured training attacks. Before long I never needed it.

The 'atkins' diet, if carried out correctly, is good for weightloss. But careful return to 'normal' carb intake, or a change in eating habits post cycle is crucial to avoiding weight gain. Yes you loose a lot of water weight. Long term ketosis can result in increased blood acidity and thus calcium leeching of the bones.

This diet can actually have some really sound nutrition principles, but no more so than a decent, healthy diet and active lifestyle. Lean meats and fish, no heavily processed high gi carbohydrate, leafy green veg and plenty of water. Wait a minute, sounds like my diet :p

We live in a world of lazy individuals looking for a quick fix for everything. Diet this, magic pill that. Bottom line is if you want to look great, feel great and maintain that state indefinately, pull you finger out and make the effort. Being thin is being thin, but being fit is the most amazing feeling in the world :)

Ant :cool:
 
Regarding the salt debate in this thread, there is evidence that it's not simply sodium intake that contributes to high blood pressure, but the ratio of sodium to potassium in the diet.

Obviously this doesn't mean that high sodium is good, but someone consuming more salt than is normally recommended could be OK providing they have a high enough intake of potassium.

The article below includes a link to a recent study on this.
http://www.modernmedicine.com/moder...Article/detail/575672?contextCategoryId=40131
 
robgmun said:
It's a well know fact that excerise can improve asthma, so if you start very light and build up then you will find it better for your health
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I find that with my asthma, if your concerned about your asthma then talk to your doc, my doc said something similar to the above
 
do it properly with a good healthy low carb diet and exercise you'll see results a lot quicker

as for being too lazy, this is your main problem you need to solve, no matter how much weight you loose if you dont have a good balanced life style you'll only pile the pounds back on.

the added exercise will probably help you asthma as it'll increase lung capacity and stamina

MW
 
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