Attack on NI military base

that and their ablity to not be able to be tried by a court if the information lead them to believe their was a threat to civilian or armedforces/ their lives, this single rule. allowed the security force to go on the attack and break the criminals backbone forcing them to go down the politcal route.
Contrary to popular opinion, 'shoot to kill' simply increased public support for the IRA. There was nothing quite like the SAS unnecessarily blowing the head off someone with complete legal impunity to support Sinn Fein's assertion that the British Government was not interested in the rule of law and justice. The tabloids might have loved Gibraltar, but it caused a lot of outrage in nationalist communities. Killing people in cold blood convinced many that nothing about the Army's behaviour had changed since Bloody Sunday.
 
Contrary to popular opinion, 'shoot to kill' simply increased public support for the IRA. There was nothing quite like the SAS unnecessarily blowing the head off someone with complete legal impunity to support Sinn Fein's assertion that the British Government was not interested in the rule of law and justice. .

The shoot to kill policey was'nt to raise support with nationalist.
It was to scare the **** out of the ira! would you want to go up a against a unit that will not take surviors, the rumour of sas working in a area would reduce activity by both sides,
What reduced the surport for ira, was the bombing of the nurses home followed by the bombing of a remberance parade. also thefact people where feed up of the violance, and america war on the drug cartels in cuba were miffed to find the ira training and helping to ship the drugs into the country.
 
I doubt that, unless they start targeting exclusively civilians.

Seems a bit pointless/stupid if all they want to do is kill military, increasing the military levels?

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That is exactly the point, the more targets the better. The army will then have to protect itself by increasing its own activities thus fueling the fire. I know there are people who would love army patrols to return to the likes of the bogside and creggan, the RIRA's ranks would swell overnight
 
I doubt that, unless they start targeting exclusively civilians.

Seems a bit pointless/stupid if all they want to do is kill military, increasing the military levels?

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That is exactly the point, the more targets the better. The army will then have to protect itself by increasing its own activities thus fueling the fire. I know there are people who would love army patrols to return to the likes of the bogside and creggan, the RIRA's ranks would swell overnight

problem with that is their not enouth brit army to do both iraq/afghanistan/ and northern irealnd and all the over places their based atmoment.
 
problem with that is their not enouth brit army to do both iraq/afghanistan/ and northern irealnd and all the over places their based atmoment.

perhaps it's best we pull back to our own borders b4 we really P someone off then ! A.B.C. Terrorism ain't nothing to scoff @
 
perhaps it's best we pull back to our own borders b4 we really P someone off then ! A.B.C. Terrorism ain't nothing to scoff @

nah last thing northern ireland need is a influx of overt troops, i think the situation should be handled covertly with survailance teams and letting northern irealnd police deal withthe situation.
 
nah last thing northern ireland need is a influx of overt troops, i think the situation should be handled covertly with survailance teams and letting northern irealnd police deal withthe situation.

Think youve misunderstood what I meant I meant I want the boyz home in da pub chillin the rest of the world is the rest of the worlds problem, don't trouble trouble b4 trouble troubles U :confused:
 
Think youve misunderstood what I meant I meant I want the boyz home in da pub chillin the rest of the world is the rest of the worlds problem, don't trouble trouble b4 trouble troubles U :confused:

yes true but the goverment seems to enjoy putting british troops in places where each side is trying to kill each over and the army looking on bemused?
Atleast this time the have chosen somewhere warm and dry, unlike ireland and balkens.
Only conflict where the british army havent had to keep to sides from killing each over is the falklands.
 
A conflict over a piece of rock more desolate ( and possibly more sheep loving sorry folks ) than Wales . Yes bet that was worth all the Undertaking :confused:

It is now they found the "new north sea" :D
Also as northern irealnd shows if people vote to stay part of either the british commonwealth or united kingdom the army is forced to protect the people and only the head of state can over rule it. so if the argentines invade agian were forced by law to go and defend it, hence why the british army got stuck in northern ireland. stopping the irish killing each other.

Edit: also i am welsh, and have never had a sexual relationship with a sheep. though i have woken up with one in my tent???
BTW its only the north welsh that do sheep.
 
see its a celtic / saxon traditon to have a north south divide.
southerners hate northerners, south wales hate gog's
and the scots hate everyone.
only differance we dont blow each over up? must be the large amount of beer
 
Gotta say I've gotta a lot of respect for the Celts , despite being European invders themselves historically aparently, my favourite place is Calderstones park in Liverpool, a park with some 'stones' from a celtic style grave ( kinda like New Grange ) apparently the Celtic tribes not only lived in Ireland but also the North of Wales and as far as Liverpool
 
orgianlly the celts where all over uk and irealnd, then the roamns came and took other most of the uk except scotland, due to the men in dresses (wouldnt you be afraid...)
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now can you tell how bored i am
 
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just bored out of my mind stuck waling around on this forum expecting to be suspeneded in less than 5,4,3,2,1
 
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