Audi or BMW?

[TW]Fox · 13 Jul 2006 at 13:46

Bennah said:
M3 over an RS6?

Wont have you been smoking?

A lot of people would make this choice despite the fact that the RS6 is technically the better car becuase the M3 is a more involving car to drive, and more fun. This is exactly what many road testers have said placing the old M3 above the new RS4 - there is no arguement that the new RS4 is a superior car but many would chose the M3 simply becuase it was more enjoyable to drive.

Personally, I'd have the RS4.

olv · 13 Jul 2006 at 13:47

Image is certainly factor when buying anything. Not that i'm worried about other people's opinion of me, but a product is certainly more attractive if it has a general positivety about it, which on a whole BMW don't.

[TW]Fox · 13 Jul 2006 at 13:47

olv said:
I'm positively exploding with excitement at the prospect at owning either of those joyous devices of automotive pleasure.

So am I, becuase you've just posted two bottom of the range entry level poverty spec saloons. Gee, how exciting.

Which marque do you prefer, becuase I'm sure I can find just as biased a reason to say they are dull, as well.

olv · 13 Jul 2006 at 13:52

Entry level or mid-range doesn't matter, I still don't consider them exciting.
Marques that do excite me include;

Lotus, Caterham, Noble, Radical, Porsche, and practically every Itialian supercar manufacturer.

[TW]Fox · 13 Jul 2006 at 13:53

Right, so your entire arguement in a thread entitled AUDI OR BMW Is that they are dull becuase they are not Caterhams?

Seriously, do you have any idea how irrelevant your point is? You'll find the back button in the top left hand side of your browser window. Thanks.

lmfy2k · 13 Jul 2006 at 14:13

surely one cannnot compare the M3 with an RS4?

more like M3 vs S4 - heres Top Gear - BMW E46 M3 vs. B5 Audi S4 Video

personally id have he S4

[TW]Fox · 13 Jul 2006 at 14:16

Problem with saying which you'd have is that you can only base your decision on what looks nicest, what has the nicest interior, what has the better image and none of this is what those cars are about.

You have to drive both, then you can make a proper decision about which is right for you

Ricochet J · 13 Jul 2006 at 14:20

Audi is the ultimate driving machine.
Furthermore, Audi's look far more prettier than the Beamers.
Also, the Audi adverts look like horror movies too

[TW]Fox · 13 Jul 2006 at 14:31

eXSBass said:
Audi is the ultimate driving machine.

No, thats BMW. A selection of FWD cars and FWD-designs with 4WD that sometimes kicks in and some AWD does not make 'Ultimate Driving Machine'

Most do look nicer than BMW's these days, though.

stig · 13 Jul 2006 at 14:36

[TW]Fox said:
No, thats BMW. A selection of FWD cars and FWD-designs with 4WD that sometimes kicks in and some AWD does not make 'Ultimate Driving Machine'

Most do look nicer than BMW's these days, though.

audi < BMW

as i said earlier audi are just jumped up VW's and god knows what the S cars are :confused:

and the S4 is no competitor to the M3 Topgear should be taken with a very small pinch of salt.

stig · 13 Jul 2006 at 14:39

even going through the topgear laptimes , there isnt a single audi at the top , the fastest BMW is the Z4M and there arnt any audis above that!

performance wise BMW pwn all the german manufacturers except maybe porsche http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/powerlaps.shtml

lucifersam · 13 Jul 2006 at 15:22

at the end of the day its which car is gonna be the most conforable and nice looking both the audi and BMW are fast enough lets face you can only go so fast in a traffic jam on the M25 and when you have the chance to accelerate both cars will out do almost anything you will come across

Nozzer · 13 Jul 2006 at 15:28

Blimey, I thought it'd get two replies of "lol" and one of "haha" then the thread would slip off the bottom.

It wasn't meant to be a debate

Nozzer · 13 Jul 2006 at 15:51

Oh, and as cars, even the fast versions of both marques are not exciting. Reasonably fun, if you have your right foot flat on the floor (keeping up with a 430 in what amounts to a family lugging machine will never get old) but you'd have to be extremely perverse to find it as exciting as a Caterham.

Nathan · 13 Jul 2006 at 15:55

Vertigo · 13 Jul 2006 at 16:06

stig said:
even going through the topgear laptimes , there isnt a single audi at the top , the fastest BMW is the Z4M and there arnt any audis above that!

performance wise BMW pwn all the german manufacturers except maybe porsche http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/powerlaps.shtml

How convenient that the RS4 is missing from the list :rolleyes:

If you want to talk track times, let's take the ultimate track shall we:

http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073

RS4 above both the M6 and M5, let alone the M3, and no the X5 Le Mans doesn't count

Generally speaking I'd agree that BMWs are better dynamically than Audis, I'm only mentioning the above in light of your blinkered "BMWs pwn everything" attitude. The point I've already made in this thread is that, even with cars geared towards performance, such as the M3/M5/M6/RS4/RS6 etc, it's never all about performance and, IMHO, BMWs fall far short of Audis in other areas

stig · 13 Jul 2006 at 17:03

Vertigo1 said:
How convenient that the RS4 is missing from the list

If you want to talk track times, let's take the ultimate track shall we:

http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073

RS4 above both the M6 and M5, let alone the M3, and no the X5 Le Mans doesn't count

Generally speaking I'd agree that BMWs are better dynamically than Audis, I'm only mentioning the above in light of your blinkered "BMWs pwn everything" attitude. The point I've already made in this thread is that, even with cars geared towards performance, such as the M3/M5/M6/RS4/RS6 etc, it's never all about performance and, IMHO, BMWs fall far short of Audis in other areas

i dont care BMW rock audi suck

Vertigo · 13 Jul 2006 at 17:40

stig said:
i dont care BMW rock audi suck

Good point, well made :rolleyes:

Why don't you stick your fingers in your ears and say "la la la - can't hear you" for added effect?

The_Dark_Side · 13 Jul 2006 at 19:59

stig said:
Topgear should be taken with a very small pinch of salt.

would that be the same salt you add when someone disagrees with your point of view, yet you leave out when they back up your point?

hmm

Biffa · 13 Jul 2006 at 20:57

Also I think it was TG702 it was mentioned the RS4's lap time was 1:25.7

Dunno why its not on the leaderboard :confused:

but that puts it between the Gallardo and the Exige S