Audi or BMW?

oweneades · 13 Jul 2006 at 21:03

stig said:
audi < BMW

as i said earlier audi are just jumped up VW's and god knows what the S cars are and the S4 is no competitor to the M3 Topgear should be taken with a very small pinch of salt.

Try the RS4 as the M3 beater. The S4 had some inherant faults due to its design (engine mounted too far forward, v8 lacked grunt) which were corrected in the RS4 and the 420BHP 4.2 N/A V8 is an amazing engine.

Scania · 13 Jul 2006 at 21:30

[TW]Fox said:

Pah! Fancy pulling Beemers with such a piece of crap!
Mercedes may well bring the driving pleasure, I would'nt describe driving one anything like! :mad:

For me, Audi or BMW would'nt get a look in compared to this.

Now THATS the "Ultimate Driving Machine" in my eyes.

Yes, I know, its sad.

Keylow · 13 Jul 2006 at 21:37

Audi methinks.

Saying that, id take an S Class over a 7 series or an A8

austinpowers · 13 Jul 2006 at 21:40

R124/LA420 said:
Pah! Fancy pulling Beemers with such a piece of crap!
Mercedes may well bring the driving pleasure, I would'nt describe driving one anything like!

For me, Audi or BMW would'nt get a look in compared to this.

Now THATS the "Ultimate Driving Machine" in my eyes.

Yes, I know, its sad.

Nice.... 620hp and 2250ftlb

The Running Man · 13 Jul 2006 at 21:52

7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03

thats the fastest beemer...

7:58 --- 156.652 km/h -- Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05)...

so what does the ring prove? nowt cos the conditions change daily, drivers also change...but ghee's that RS4 could do with shedding some KG's!

Bear · 13 Jul 2006 at 21:57

Ive never driven any of the top cars from either marque so wouldnt be able to make a valid judgement but I think I would prefer a BMW out of the two

Vertigo · 13 Jul 2006 at 21:59

Biffa said:
Also I think it was TG702 it was mentioned the RS4's lap time was 1:25.7

Just checked. They said it did it in 1:25.something but also said it was "over a second quicker than the Cayman", which did it in 1.26.7, so it's between 1:25.0 and 1:25.6

austinpowers · 13 Jul 2006 at 22:03

Bear said:
Ive never driven any of the top cars from either marque so wouldnt be able to make a valid judgement but I think I would prefer a BMW out of the two

At a guess because it's rwd just like your nice 200sx

Vertigo · 13 Jul 2006 at 22:05

Nickg said:
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03

thats the fastest beemer...

Arg, missed that

7:58 --- 156.652 km/h -- Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05)...

so what does the ring prove? nowt cos the conditions change daily, drivers also change

I know that it's a flawed comparison but I was just chucking it back in stig's face tbh to illustrate that anyone can produce pointless and irrelevant figures to back up their claims

...but ghee's that RS4 could do with shedding some KG's!

Keep reading...

M6: 1761kg
M5: 1844kg
M3: 1584kg
E39 M5: 1833kg

Even the F430 weighs 1493kg and the 996 Turbo 1569kg.

Trifid · 13 Jul 2006 at 22:27

...but ghee's that RS4 could do with shedding some KG's!

It is the niice, extremly heavy dash that equates to a big chunk of that.

(Slightly pointless post, as I already shown my opinion with out driving all of them.)

Hades · 13 Jul 2006 at 23:28

I'm actually quite surprised that most people seem to be voting for Audi over the BMW (I agree with them though). I thought the BMW would win as most people seem to prefer them (part of the reason I don't).

GSXRMovistar · 14 Jul 2006 at 01:29

[TW]Fox said:
Right, so your entire arguement in a thread entitled AUDI OR BMW Is that they are dull becuase they are not Caterhams?

Seriously, do you have any idea how irrelevant your point is? You'll find the back button in the top left hand side of your browser window. Thanks.

Radical?!?!? Well Fox has already beaten me to pointing out how irrelevant your alternatives are so I'll just quote for agreement.

digitalwolf · 14 Jul 2006 at 01:31

I used to be a big BM'er fan but after then new shape, i'm all for Audi.

The Audi's have nicer interior I reckon.

Scania · 14 Jul 2006 at 02:38

Nickg said:
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03

thats the fastest beemer...

7:58 --- 156.652 km/h -- Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05)...

so what does the ring prove? nowt cos the conditions change daily, drivers also change...but ghee's that RS4 could do with shedding some KG's!

Imagine an M3 CSL with 420PS :eek:

Thats - quite literally as my name tag shows - truck power output! :eek:

I've seen,somewhere, an M3 / CSL with the e39 M5 V8 - 400ps its quite a machine, can I find the link though.....

lucifersam · 14 Jul 2006 at 08:39

R124/LA420 said:
Imagine an M3 CSL with 420PS Thats - quite literally as my name tag shows - truck power output!

I've seen,somewhere, an M3 / CSL with the e39 M5 V8 - 400ps its quite a machine, can I find the link though.....

you say truck power output, is really whats the torque figure? not much ill bet.

Von Luck · 14 Jul 2006 at 09:24

The only current model BMW I'd consider owning is the X5 - simply because it's not as fugly as the rest of their range.

For that reason alone Audi is the defacto winner for me.

stig · 14 Jul 2006 at 12:06

oweneades said:
Try the RS4 as the M3 beater. The S4 had some inherant faults due to its design (engine mounted too far forward, v8 lacked grunt) which were corrected in the RS4 and the 420BHP 4.2 N/A V8 is an amazing engine.

yeh thats because audi decided to release the RS4 towards the end of the current M3's life so for a year they can go look we beat bmw woooo , then as soon as the new M3 is released Audi will go back to their little cornor and shut up/

*s

The Running Man · 14 Jul 2006 at 12:28

stig said:
then as soon as the new M3 is released Audi will go back to their little cornor and shut up/

*s

not bias or anything are you? little cornor? what planet are you on? these are 2 fantastically performing marques who are competing tet-a-tet, providing stimulation for each other, and diversity for the consumer...

im not sure from which rock you have crawled from under, but sheesh i hope no others escaped.

oweneades · 14 Jul 2006 at 13:17

stig said:
yeh thats because audi decided to release the RS4 towards the end of the current M3's life so for a year they can go look we beat bmw woooo , then as soon as the new M3 is released Audi will go back to their little cornor and shut up/

*s

We shall have to see. The RS4 has proved to be a lot better than anyone thought it would be.

-Neil- · 14 Jul 2006 at 14:35

At this moment in time, it would probably be Audi for me.

The new RS4 is just so :cool:

And Stig, we've heard what you think about 30 billion times, no need to bleat on about because someone doesn't agree with you...

Neil.