Auto or manual

Bumping the thread a bit but had the first instance of my auto letting me down tonight - on dual-carriageway came up behind a moped with someone in the outside lane coming up quite fast - usually I've got in the habit of pulling out early and taking a more dominant position but erred on the side of being polite tonight :s as the person overtaking cleared me and I was starting to manoeuvre out (had been indicating the whole time) the car behind me decided to move over and try and come past me so I had to get quickly back on the brakes then I think they realised they were being a bit of a dick and eased back and flashed their headlights - but when I got back on the power to pull out the auto didn't respond engine just red-lined without much effect before finally deciding to change - usually I approach these situations in sport which possibly helps avoid it and I wasn't on the ball enough to manually change gear before the auto belatedly acted.
 
on dual-carriageway came up behind a moped with someone in the outside lane coming up quite fast - usually I've got in the habit of pulling out early and taking a more dominant position but erred on the side of being polite tonight :s
If you see someone coming up fast behind you, you pull out early to ensure you can overtake the car miles away in front instead allowing the fast-moving car in the outside lane overtake you first?
FU, Sir.
 
I forget what you have Navaro ? .... visit to the garage if the box behaved unpredictably
although
The auto box is a frequent area of complaint with the V6. Partly due to it being almost over programmed, for example it uses the g sensors to stop it changing gears on corners and alter the change points if you are going uphill or downhill. It is also linked to the turbo
is it more complex setup than many.
 
If you see someone coming up fast behind you, you pull out early to ensure you can overtake the car miles away in front instead allowing the fast-moving car in the outside lane overtake you first?
FU, Sir.

He did ?

He had a car directly behind him which tried to over take him soon as the fast car went passed
 
If you see someone coming up fast behind you, you pull out early to ensure you can overtake the car miles away in front instead allowing the fast-moving car in the outside lane overtake you first?
FU, Sir.

No - you are connecting those things more than I intended them to be - in a more general sense I tend to be more pre-emptive these days moving out earlier rather than later - but I don't pull out and force someone else to adjust their position or speed. In this case it was a fine line - I'd have probably been past before they caught up but there wasn't much in it so I erred on the side of being polite.

I forget what you have Navaro ? .... visit to the garage if the box behaved unpredictably
although

is it more complex setup than many.

I think that is the 2.5 - AFAIK the 3.0 uses a completely different auto though it is also relatively complex. In over 2 years I've not had any problems with it in that respect. Usually in these situations you can use the kick-down but it had already dropped down due to the changing incline and slowing down/speeding up twice in quick succession and I wasn't mentally in sync with the gear changes so by the time I realised whether it needed to be going up or down a gear it had sorted itself out before I could do it manually.

I think somewhat it is due to normal driving mode being tweaked post ~2012 to be an "eco" mode due to emissions :( - I suspect on the old profile (which mine being a newer truck doesn't have) or in sport mode it would never have even happened.
 
He did ?

He had a car directly behind him which tried to over take him soon as the fast car went passed

I can see how my wording could give that impression mjt has but it wasn't what I was intending.

I could probably have cleared the moped before the car in the outside lane caught up but as it was a fine line I erred on the side of being considerate. The other car had been following me the last 2 miles or so at the same speed about 3-4 car lengths back - I think they just didn't think for a moment because they pretty quickly eased off and flashed their headlights a few times almost as if to apologise. But in general I've got in the habit normally of erring on the other side of being a little more dominant because of stuff like that.

EDIT: If I'm the second car and/or I'm further back and see it I tend to sit out and screen so someone can pull out as per my video awhile back but that isn't always an ideal thing to do either - especially if someone is behind you who might not anticipate it.
 
I think it's more the fact you drive a builders lorry and think it's a car than the box itself :p

Somewhat true - but it'll do 0-60 in 8.6s on the current setup which is no slouch for a truck and normally it is spot on.

I actually find the opposite side of that coin a problem though - I encounter people who don't appreciate it doesn't handle like a car and expect or anticipate you to get away brisker (which might have been a factor here) or to nip in and out of space which might be possible with a car but not with a pickup.
 
A big oofer mobile :eek:

(Ok if you have a job/need for them such as towing).

TBH 2020 kind of upset my plans in that regard - if it was a run of the mill pickup I'd have probably sold it by now but I've got kind of attached to it.

EDIT: The smart money as well would be to sell/px it for a new Navara now as well but meh.
 
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@Rroff, there’s nothing better for towing sports cars, vehicle recovery, caravans, horse boxes etc.
What where your plans btw?
 
I can see how my wording could give that impression mjt has but it wasn't what I was intending.

I could probably have cleared the moped before the car in the outside lane caught up but as it was a fine line I erred on the side of being considerate. The other car had been following me the last 2 miles or so at the same speed about 3-4 car lengths back - I think they just didn't think for a moment because they pretty quickly eased off and flashed their headlights a few times almost as if to apologise. But in general I've got in the habit normally of erring on the other side of being a little more dominant because of stuff like that.

EDIT: If I'm the second car and/or I'm further back and see it I tend to sit out and screen so someone can pull out as per my video awhile back but that isn't always an ideal thing to do either - especially if someone is behind you who might not anticipate it.
Thank you for your level-headed and mature response to my relatively immature reaction :D
As someone who regularly comes down the outside lane at speed, people who pull out to overtake even though they can see someone coming infuriate me.

With regards to the rest of the post, I think Fox nails it. It's probably the rest of the car rather than the gearbox :p
 
With regards to the rest of the post, I think Fox nails it. It's probably the rest of the car rather than the gearbox :p

For more than 2 years it has been spot on in this regard.

It can sometimes struggle a bit if it can't decide if you are on the road or needing more low range usually when trying to follow a cyclist on undulating roads. They've mated an engine (V9X) more intended for SUVs and executive cars with electronics/auto based off the 370Z so it is a bit of an odd one - does low range well, loves brisk highways but can fall down a bit inbetween.
 
Not sure if this has been discussed yet. Can’t be bothered reading 20+ pages.

Can you get adaptive cruise control in a manual car? I drive a lot of the motorway so can’t live without ACC. I do love rev matching on a manual but for ease of driving in traffic, motorway etc. Definitely get an auto.
 
Not sure if this has been discussed yet. Can’t be bothered reading 20+ pages.

Can you get adaptive cruise control in a manual car? I drive a lot of the motorway so can’t live without ACC. I do love rev matching on a manual but for ease of driving in traffic, motorway etc. Definitely get an auto.
My mk7 Golf GTD had it, always switched off. The devils work luring you into concentrating less.
 
Ease of driving on a motorway lol?
Driving a manual couldn’t be easier.
I would say an auto comes into its own in city driving, stop start.
In fact I wore the pressure plate out on my last van (not friction plate).
 
Ease of driving on a motorway lol?
Driving a manual couldn’t be easier.
I would say an auto comes into its own in city driving, stop start.
In fact I wore the pressure plate out on my last van (not friction plate).

Guess it depends on how busy the motorway is?

If you think of where the M61 joins the M60 during rush hour, then it's bumper to bumper and an auto is hugely advantages over a manual.
 
Problem with electronic handbrakes - for instance if I lend my truck (which doesn't have one) to someone used to them they forget to take it off before starting off and/or forget to put it on after parking (fortunately in park it doesn't tend to move easily).

First time i drove an auto it was left at a hotel (my wife was looking at relocating after a company takeover and they invited us down to look at the area), i'd just broken my thumb and had my arm in a cast so needed an auto.

I remember getting in the car, trying to put it into reverse, pressing the accelerator and just revving it. I looked around trying loads of stuff for 10 minutes, before giving up and going into the hotel for a pint.

Went out later with the wife, who pointed to the electronic handbrake switch :(

Not a proud "Man Moment". I'd always just assumed that "Park" engaged the hand brake on an Auto.
 
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