I believe they're just for people caught by the police. What is there to be confused about on the motorway though? The speed limit is 70 unless otherwise stated.
Average Speed Camera Clarification?
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I believe they're just for people caught by the police. What is there to be confused about on the motorway though? The speed limit is 70 unless otherwise stated.
if the limit sign is not illuminated above your lane - I'm assuming its universal - ie if 40 marked on the others - its 40 on all lanes ?
I often see it (not where there is a exit either) - where one is not on - I guess its broken ?
also whilst talking about speed cameras etc - whats the speed limit on a single lane slipway onto a national speed-limit dual-carriageway - 60 or 70 ?
I often see it (not where there is a exit either) - where one is not on - I guess its broken ?
also whilst talking about speed cameras etc - whats the speed limit on a single lane slipway onto a national speed-limit dual-carriageway - 60 or 70 ?
Im fairly sure the gantry cameras on the southside of the M25 aren't turned on - they never got approval - and yes I have gone through them quicker than the limit on many occasions and I love killing children 
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I'm a bit worried myself, there is a bit on the A13 coming into Dagenham area that is really confusing, it goes from 50 to 40 and suddenly back to 50 and there are two sets of Specs around 100 yards apart, I actually didn't realise one section was 40 and I did 50 all the way across until it came to the Specs camera and had a sign saying 40 and then right after the first set of Specs there is a sign saying 50 and 2nd set of Specs, confused the hell out of me and now am worried I might have got done going at 50. 
I'm a bit worried myself, there is a bit on the A13 coming into Dagenham area that is really confusing, it goes from 50 to 40 and suddenly back to 50 and there are two sets of Specs around 100 yards apart, I actually didn't realise one section was 40 and I did 50 all the way across until it came to the Specs camera and had a sign saying 40 and then right after the first set of Specs there is a sign saying 50 and 2nd set of Specs, confused the hell out of me and now am worried I might have got done going at 50.
14 days plus postage delays until you find out...
Whatever the speed limit was until the sign to tell you otherwise!
Thing is, you don't know if they are getting away with it or not. For all you know every single one of them has received a speeding ticket.
Better safe than sorry with average speed cameras
Beat me to it.
Not one person here knows if that tard who speeds past you in one of the avg. speed limit zones gets a ticket or not so you can't really say that they aren't or you wonder how they do it. I think Freefaller was right in that he a lot of people simply don't understand the meaning of average speed limit tbh.
Lord knows I've sat in the M25 avg speed zone as well as the M6 one and wondered what goes through peoples minds that makes them think they can get away with travelling well over 60mph let alone a couple of mph over 50 in these avg. 50 zones and actually get away with it. I'd love to know if they actually do get away with it!!
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Ugh I hate that 40 zone - we use that road often to see her family, and it really does lengthen an already long journey. People still bomb past you there!
They even put a matrix sign telling people how many have been "done".
They even put a matrix sign telling people how many have been "done".
Not a particularly helpful answer if the speed limit was NSL
To answer the question - slip road speed limit is the same as the road it is joining unless otherwise indicated (which in 99% of cases is 70)
There's no traffic in the opposite direction without a barrier in between, so technically it's a dual carriageway, therefore at NSL it's 70.
Are you on about the ones where there use to be road works but now have those silly speed cameras where they can change the speed limit (going from J28 to J26 on the M62, I believe they start and end there as I dont go any further than those junctions)?
I know they work because a guy next to me drove through one over the 40mph limit and got flashed (which scared the hell out of me as the flash was really bright). I was going much slower than that as there were a build up of traffic in my lane.
I know they work because a guy next to me drove through one over the 40mph limit and got flashed (which scared the hell out of me as the flash was really bright). I was going much slower than that as there were a build up of traffic in my lane.
Anyone can go on one the speed awareness courses regardless of whether you're stopped by the Police or caught by any type of camera, but you will only be offered this option if:
a) your speed wasn't excessive (e.g. <59 in a 50, or <37 in a 30)
b) you haven't attended one in the last three years
Even then, depending on other circumstances, you may not get offered the course.
You can attend a course anywhere in the country, regardless of where the infringement was committed.
I have always been slightly confused by average speed cameras. Is the average speed calculated just between two camera locations? Anything else does not make sense. You could drive through two with an average speed of X and through five with an average speed of Y. X could be 55mph whereas Y could be 50mph for example.
It would be possible to drive for a short distance at up to 60-70mph overtaking and still be within 50mph overall average between cameras therefore occasional bursts of speed would be acceptable and not subject to penalties.
It would be possible to drive for a short distance at up to 60-70mph overtaking and still be within 50mph overall average between cameras therefore occasional bursts of speed would be acceptable and not subject to penalties.
Average speed is calculated very easily as distance divided by time taken to travel the distance.
If you're <50mph for all of the cameras on a stretch, you'll be <50mph for the entire stretch. If you're >50mph between one camera and another, regardless of if you averaged <50mph for the whole stretch then expect a speeding ticket.
If you're >50mph for the entire stretch then expect a speeding ticket.
Exceeding the 50mph limit for a brief period might not increase your average above the 50mph for any given stretch, but if you do 70mph between cameras and only slow down for each camera then your average will be >50mpH, so expect a ticket.
If you're <50mph for all of the cameras on a stretch, you'll be <50mph for the entire stretch. If you're >50mph between one camera and another, regardless of if you averaged <50mph for the whole stretch then expect a speeding ticket.
If you're >50mph for the entire stretch then expect a speeding ticket.
Exceeding the 50mph limit for a brief period might not increase your average above the 50mph for any given stretch, but if you do 70mph between cameras and only slow down for each camera then your average will be >50mpH, so expect a ticket.
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Yeah it's between each camera that a picture is taken, so if you average 60mph between 2 gantries, and 40 between the rest, even though your total average speed in the SPECS zone is 50mph, you'll still (should still) get a ticket for hitting 60mph average.
At least that's how I understood it.
At least that's how I understood it.
It never ceases to amaze in such zones, cars thunder along @ 70+ and then slam on to get back down to 50 for the camera, usually expensive high end motors.
That somebody clearly successful enough to attain such a car misunderstands the meaning of the term "average" really puzzles and somewhat depresses me!
I've found over the years that traveling along an average speed camera controlled stretch of motorway @ 50MPH a calibrated 55MPH on cruise control along with the rest of the racing elephants will not gain you a ticket.....
How I know this is a mystery.
That somebody clearly successful enough to attain such a car misunderstands the meaning of the term "average" really puzzles and somewhat depresses me!
I've found over the years that traveling along an average speed camera controlled stretch of motorway @ 50MPH a calibrated 55MPH on cruise control along with the rest of the racing elephants will not gain you a ticket.....
How I know this is a mystery.
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