Average Speed Camera's!!!

I was told recently by a friend whos friend's Dad works for something to do with the cameras, that the cameras can only lock onto a vehicles plate in their mapped out lane. So apparently if you're dead on the line (although I can't see them mapping the cameras to the lane lines perfectly) then neither of the cameras will get you... but it's a big risk as you have to be dead on the centre so half your plate is in one lane and half in the other in order for neither to lock onto you're plate.
 
Hmmm some of the replies to original question are interesting.

I have heard similar stories of the "Lane Changing" Tactic, i suppose the main the thing though is nobody would actually try it so i suppose the unknown is proving them to be effective.

They are big and yellow and have the Camera warning sign near them, lets just hope that they do not become too common and make EVERY motorway journey that you take a compulsory 50mph average!!

I appreciate they are there not just for our safety but also for the safety of the workers (Especially on the M1) and yes the CC does help, i nice sit back and relax time :)

Interesting that only one person so far that has posted actually knows somebody that has been caught by them
 
They changed a big chunk of the A127 to 50mph for no apparent reason a while back and put these up.

They aim at the front, right? So they can't see my bike's plate? I'm certain they can't, but I don't want to risk it. My commute to work only involves a little stretch of them anyway so it doesn't really bother me but I honestly don't know why they've done it.
 
PardonTheWait said:
They aim at the front, right? So they can't see my bike's plate?
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Interesting point there, Motorbikes!! They are front facing camera's surely this does give you immunity :D

Like most thoughts on this "AVERAGE SPEED CAMERA" conversation is that nobody ACTUALLY knows lol and is most definitely not worth trying out

I just wish somebody who worked for the camera company was on this forum lol
 
PardonTheWait said:
They changed a big chunk of the A127 to 50mph for no apparent reason a while back and put these up.

They aim at the front, right? So they can't see my bike's plate? I'm certain they can't, but I don't want to risk it. My commute to work only involves a little stretch of them anyway so it doesn't really bother me but I honestly don't know why they've done it.
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re motorbikes. can you say descrimination?!

as for the a127. i commute up and down there myself all the time.

ive quite blatently gone too fast in the 50 section a couple times. again, im convinced these cameras are a scam
 
Despite what you may read in the press, SPECS is not lane specific, or limited to vehicles that enter and exit the zone in the same lane.

http://www.speedcheck.co.uk/specs.htm
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According to this site (maintained by the suppliers of the SPECS system, they have reduced accidents which must be a good thing. There is further information on the SPECS system on speed camera sites at http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/SPECS.htm & http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/specs.htm, neither of which mention that the system is ineffective.

Surely the cameras used to manage the congestion charge in London are based on the same technology as SPECS?

Since they can identify a registration plate almost instantly, what I am really looking forward to is the day that SPECS is used to identify and prosecute the drivers of cars without a current valid MOT or insurance :)
 
stockhausen said:
Since they can identify a registration plate almost instantly, what I am really looking forward to is the day that SPECS is used to identify and prosecute the drivers of cars without a current valid MOT or insurance :)
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HERE HERE! None Insured drivers are my biggest bug bare!!!

I do agree that any accident reduction is a GOOD THING, i just have this slight hunch that the bigger picture will see these Average cameras on a larger scale, like in France
 
They're even worse than normal cameras as if you don't have cruise control, you're constantly looking down at your speedo to check you're not going to up your average, rather than looking at the potential hazards on the road in front of you :p

Either way sorry I can't say I know of anyone that has been done by them before.
 
[ASSE]Hinchy;14986050 said:
They're even worse than normal cameras as if you don't have cruise control, you're constantly looking down at your speedo to check you're not going to up your average, rather than looking at the potential hazards on the road in front of you :p

Either way sorry I can't say I know of anyone that has been done by them before.
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Not much of an argument, you've supposed to be doing that anyway! :p
 
True :p

But what I mean is you can plod along a 50mph road without average speed cameras and be travelling approximately 50 whilst looking at all around you. If you're constantly checking that you're not creeping over 50, your awareness of what is around you decreases.

Just my 2p anyway :)
 
I seem to remember hearing a senior guy from Hampshire Police on the radio about a year ago ago stating that during the 10 month period they used a SPECS-enforced 50mph speed limit through some major road-widening works on the M27, only 25 or so people had been caught by the system!

Saying that though, my old man was caught doing an average of 69mph through some SPECS cameras on the M3 a few weeks back while taking my sis up to Stansted. Knowing him though he was probably on autopilot at 5am and didn't even spot the roadworks and cameras so was just sticking to 70!
 
Judgement of speed should be something that comes naturally to most motorists - I can guage my rough speed from looking and listening to my car.

You could use the same argument for the standard motorway limit, so its not exactly a defence or even a reason that they are any more unsafe than not having them. Bearing in mind most average cameras are used for roadworks, where you have people working in the road.

They're clearly an effective deterrant, most people slow down for them which is what they are designed to do - contrary to popular belief
 
iaind said:
Judgement of speed should be something that comes naturally to most motorists - I can guage my rough speed from looking and listening to my car.

You could use the same argument for the standard motorway limit, so its not exactly a defence or even a reason that they are any more unsafe than not having them. Bearing in mind most average cameras are used for roadworks, where you have people working in the road.

They're clearly an effective deterrant, most people slow down for them which is what they are designed to do - contrary to popular belief
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Agree with you, they are very successful from what i have seen. Having said that i have come across a few people that treat them like normal speed cameras and when they come across the first one they slam on their breaks as they think they will get flashed immediately :p and do not understand the AVERAGE part lol
 
It's also worth noting that SPECS cameras also seem to work on the 10% leeway.
So make an average of 65 in a 60 and you're unlikely to be ticketed.
 
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