Never know.
One has to have a British sense of humour or you would never venture into the cities these days, do lighten upYour take on what he was about is??
You just need to be prepared:
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Never know.
You just need to be prepared:
Referring to all these Croydon comments - just to be clear the axe man was in Purley Tesco which is in the nicer/affluent southern area of the borough of Croydon
Yes Croydon the city itself (and Thornton Heath/Norbury) are rough but that's what seems to happen in modern multicultural areas
Soldato
You hear about young gangs doing it or terrorists a lot more on the news because that is what the hot topic is and what people love to talk about (just look in GD). There has always been violence and crime. I live in a very safe and affluent area and even here you get the odd weird violent incident but it never reaches the headlines.
Do we blame cultural enrichment for football hooliganism that was also nicknamed 'the English disease'?
Gang violence has been around for as long as there have been gangs, long before 'cultural enrichment'
Do we blame cultural enrichment for football hooliganism that was also nicknamed 'the English disease'?
Gang violence has been around for as long as there have been gangs, long before 'cultural enrichment'
That was us enriching other cultures. But English football hooliganism was pretty much stamped out by the mid 90s...
Also I noticed the definition on urban dictionary is spot on: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cultural enrichment
Also I noticed the definition on urban dictionary is spot on: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cultural enrichment
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Yeah but how are you gonna whinge for 15 pages about that? Come on, be more considerate, these stereotypes won't spread themselves!
There is an aspect of Football hooliganism that could be regarded as "Consenting adults" It rarely involved third parties.
Same also goes for people like the Krays and the Richardsons. (I know somebody who grew up on their patch)
What we today take for granted as "Street crime" and acts of random violence that the likes of Khan tell us is part and parcel of living in a big city simply didn't exist before the late 70's
The ripper story is actually a good example of just how bad things have got.
1890's London was an utterly chaotic city, and yet, it was actually so safe to walk around in, even in the worst neighborhoods, that a serial killer with only 5 victims became world news and still attracts interest to this day.
Jack today would just be swallowed up in the general statistics and pass without notice!
Soldato
Did you justify British criminals because they apparently only target eachother?
For some reason I don't think discussing this any further will be fruitful
For some reason I don't think discussing this any further will be fruitful
Did you justify British criminals because they apparently only target each-other?
I am not that bothered about criminals that target each other. It Is the ones that might target me that are of concern.
Back in the 60's Buses and trains would have areas near the doors where people could leave their baggage secure in the knowledge that nobody would ever dream of actually stealing it.
All this changed in the late 60's/70's
My very first experience of a real live Black man was in the mid 60's when he stole my bag from one such compartment.
Of course, hell hath no fury compared to a wronged 6 year old so I engaged in hot pursuit yelling "Stop Thief" like they do in the movies.
He tried to escape by running up a down escalator but it was too crowded for him to be able to do so while carrying my bag, so he had to drop it.
I was pleased as punch at recovering my property.
It all happened so fast that my Dad didn't see it happen and by the time he realized I was off the train the doors had closed and he had to get the return train from the next station.
Hey Ho, Happy times!
if it's consensual it shouldn't be classed as criminal
As something of a libertarian, I could, with certain reservations, go along with that.
EG, I do not see why "Pistols at dawn" should be considered illegal.
Yep. There are so many killings there now they don't all make the news. Or that's all we'd be hearing about.
Daily stabbings\shootings is standard London now.
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Having known someone well that once shared a house with the Krays, I can assure you neither they, nor the Richardson's, targeted members of the public or armed forces at random, nor did they blow kiddies to pieces with bombs in very busy public arenas. They were career criminals, not terrorists, and often spoken of fondly by elderly members of the public in their locales. I would be extremely surprised if the supermarket machete man was a career criminal, or trying to rob the place. It looked a classic case of causing terror amongst the English public at large. If he indeed has the popular "mental health issues" it's remarkable how many black men currently seem to share his condition, one which possesses them to kill and maim for specious reasons with bladed weapons. I don't recall this phenomenon in earlier times, nor a long line of them being treated for anger management back then. It's becoming a modern day cultural thing and one which is now depressingly rampant.
Talking rubbish again I see.
How many was there last year again? Just in London?
Even internationally London is getting a reputation for being quite stabby.
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I lived in the area 2002-2006 and having friends in the area visited fairly regularly from the 80s onwards - not really been back much in the last 10 years but while some parts are rough and I have had someone try and fight me randomly once it was never even close to the earlier mention of Aleppo.
Not just London - I live well down in the South West currently near Yeovil - there have been over a dozen stabbings in the last year with several fatalities and an armed robbery a few nights ago that culminated in a shootout with police.
The Krays ruled by fear, exactly what the terrorists want to do but on a much larger scale.
The Krays ruled other criminals by fear. They didn't go round robbing and butchering random members of the public, throwing acid in people's faces, etc.
Old school gangters like them knew that if they ****** off the public and gave them a reason to hate them, they would have nowhere to hide.
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Was gonna say, Croydon town centre is horrid, but Purley is arguably nicer than many inner London areas.
I'm moving just south of Purley in a few months, but no worries, I have lived in Tottenham for the past 3 years and not been stabbed or shot yet, I'm sure I will be find in the burbs
Soldato
The Krays being romanticized like this is ******** and is born from the depiction in media. You will see the same being said of Nostra Cosa and the Medellin cartel but actual events refute it. Many locals in Colombia still love Pablo and describe him as a local hero, despite the bombings and killings that involved plenty of the general public.
At the end of the day, if you are ruthless and despicable enough to do nasty stuff like they did to other criminals, there is no chance they wouldn't touch the public because - morals/they are White British/whatever ********.
https://medium.com/@UniNorthants/br...storical-perspective-50-years-on-b7ccfc2da288
At the end of the day, if you are ruthless and despicable enough to do nasty stuff like they did to other criminals, there is no chance they wouldn't touch the public because - morals/they are White British/whatever ********.
https://medium.com/@UniNorthants/br...storical-perspective-50-years-on-b7ccfc2da288
I lived in Coulsdon for years which is one of the nicer parts of croydon. Tottenham is the worst place i've been to in london. Felt in danger the whole time I was there.Was gonna say, Croydon town centre is horrid, but Purley is arguably nicer than many inner London areas.
I'm moving just south of Purley in a few months, but no worries, I have lived in Tottenham for the past 3 years and not been stabbed or shot yet, I'm sure I will be find in the burbs
Was gonna say, Croydon town centre is horrid, but Purley is arguably nicer than many inner London areas.
I'm moving just south of Purley in a few months, but no worries, I have lived in Tottenham for the past 3 years and not been stabbed or shot yet, I'm sure I will be find in the burbs
Moving to Reedham? I'm in Kenley - welcome to the hood fellow SAffer