Soldato
Then the car needs fewer switches or all the existing ones need organising better. And there still shouldn't be any way that a single button press can turn off the brakes.
Poll: Azerbaijan Grand Prix 2021, Baku - Race 6/23
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Then the car needs fewer switches or all the existing ones need organising better. And there still shouldn't be any way that a single button press can turn off the brakes.
I don't disagree there's probably an excess of complication, the point was that he seemed to be doing something you wouldn't expect, so it's always going to be more likely you **** something up in that sort of circumstance. As for 'turn off the brakes', I know you're being flippant with wording to reinforce the point but for the benefit of anyone else reading who may not be keeping as up to date - as @Flibster described earlier, it doesn't 'turn them off', it moves the balance very heavily forward and turns on regen to max - they still work, just not in the way the driver will be expecting them to work.
Soldato
You're right that I probably should use a more accurate term than 'turns the brakes off'
Soldato
If you watch other races. That's how he holds it while setting up for start of the race.
To many buttons in F1 now.
For me there should just be the gear change paddles and a but for radio\overtake.
I get the impression RB asked him if he wanted to go back to the big team and he said no. Clearly he's much happier at AT and the car is good. Fast and seemly stable and easy to drive.
Soldato
Yeah, but Checo was a good choice to keep the seat warm for Gasly. Though if I was Gasly I would try to do a Sainz and get away from the RedBull stable. Even before this race, Checo had more points than either Gasly or Albon after 5 races.
Caporegime
The inherent problem with all these switches is that they simultaneously need to be accessible enough for the drivers to easily access whilst driving a car at speed during safety car periods and warm ups laps, and not easily accidentally knocked. One requires them to be accessed with a gloved thumb while managing steering and gears, the other requires them to be as difficult as possible to press.
F1 steering wheels are incredibly complicated: I doubt it's possible to design a perfectly knock free wheel that is still usable by the drivers when they need it.
It's the way he holds the wheel for standing starts. It's how he find it best to accurately operate the clutch paddle. Done it for the last couple of years at least.
Commissario
That's the term that Lewis used and what I quoted earlier.You're right that I probably should use a more accurate term than 'turns the brakes off'
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/f1/12326360/hamilton-our-hard-work-did-not-pay-off
Soldato
He did indeed. But @Kenai's right, he still had some kind of brakes. Just not brakes that could stand up to what was being asked of them.
And all it took was one button press. One. And this doesn't scare everyone??? I'm genuinely staggered.
https://youtu.be/v7GqWctVPi8?t=213
Good portrayal of where the buttons are located relative to each other - I suspect questions will indeed be asked (even if just internally) if that's a sensible place to have such a button.
Good portrayal of where the buttons are located relative to each other - I suspect questions will indeed be asked (even if just internally) if that's a sensible place to have such a button.
Soldato
If it was only a lever/trigger/hold-to-activate, rather than click on/click off. That would at least be something.
Soldato
To be honest, i'm gobsmacked that button is in that position. For something that important to be placed so close to a gear paddle seems stupid to me. Let's face it, for the most part that button is only used during the formation lap. It dosn't really need to be on the steering wheel at all, it could be anywhere in the cockpit as long as the driver can get to it.
Caporegime
The question is why Hamilton moved his hand there, it's in a sensible enough place for the button with the hand in the normal position, but he was reaching over it to get to the gear shifter (clutch?).
I suspect it's there simply because most/all the teams have blank 'shoulder' buttons (or some have paddles) to assign whatever presets they like to.
Mercedes have chosen a preset for that particular one of 'ridiculous brake bias'. I'd guess not everyone else has the same preset in the same place.
Soldato
If you watch onboards from the last few seasons, that's always how he's started the car. He holds the wheel with his right hand at 3 o'clock to shift up, and has his left hand reaching over the top of the wheel to get better finesse on the clutches.
Here's a view of it from Bahrain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjWmaoQxycg
I can imagine Merc will be moving the magic button for the next race.
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It was an interesting race.
Just glad Lance and Max are OK. Credit to F1 cars, they are as tough as they come but it only takes something to dig in and the car to flip/launch and the ending could be very different. I hear the failures were from debris - I wonder if the tree foliage falling onto the track could cause such lacerations to the tyres?
Max was flawless and thoroughly deserved the win. I'm actually pleased that Hamilton's mistake happened. It really felt like karma. But fair play to Perez for being there when RBR needed their number 2 to capitalise and all whilst on the verge of a retirement to boot! Quality drive under a lot of pressure.
Best race of the season so far!
Just glad Lance and Max are OK. Credit to F1 cars, they are as tough as they come but it only takes something to dig in and the car to flip/launch and the ending could be very different. I hear the failures were from debris - I wonder if the tree foliage falling onto the track could cause such lacerations to the tyres?
Max was flawless and thoroughly deserved the win. I'm actually pleased that Hamilton's mistake happened. It really felt like karma. But fair play to Perez for being there when RBR needed their number 2 to capitalise and all whilst on the verge of a retirement to boot! Quality drive under a lot of pressure.
Best race of the season so far!
Soldato
It's the driver that tells the team where they want certain buttons.
Bottas does not have that brake button in the same place as Hamilton.
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