B550 Aorus Master - 14x 70amps Direct Phases ! 980a Vcore...insane

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https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10#kf


So, b450 can't support Zen 3 / Ryzen 4000

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14+2 VRM set up. NO DOUBLEES

Keep the costs down could be 1 hi and 1 low side MOSFET so not integrated or 40/50 amp integrated MOSFET

The GIGABYTE B550 AORUS Master is the company's most premium offering based on this chipset, and is the only other board than the ASRock Taichi to feature three M.2 slots. Like the ASUS Strix-E, you get two PCI-Express 4.0 x16 slots (x8/x8 with both populated); reinforced PCIe and memory slots; a digital POST code, GIGABYTE's premium AMP-UP onboard audio solution, VRM heatinks with real fin-stacks; and 802.11ax + 2.5 GbE connectivity.
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Late release of B550 would mean no B650 for Zen 3 but allow x670 to come out with more PCIe 4.0 support
 
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willhub said:
That chart isn't correct, my B350F supports 3000 series processors.
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3rd row down. Table is poorly done

Gray2233 said:
Pretty sure it's already been confirmed that B450 will support Ryzen 4000, although it'll depend on the motherboard manufacturer to supply the correct bios for it.

Though could all be wrong and b450 Max etc can support it

I can't see why B450/X470 would have such a short shelf life when AMD has supported every other chipset under AM4 for as long.
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Most bios chips were low in storage . Power delivery and money ... AMD makes more money with new chipsets sold .
They now have the market share, but to make more cash you need to raise prices or increase even more marketshare
 
Gray2233 said:
True.

I still expect this to depend on the manufacturer to some extent as we've already had some come forward and say it's possible to run 4000 series on B450 chipsets.

It would surprise me if the MSI Max boards didn't get a bios update for example.
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AMD can easily force it though, bit like Intel . B450 can do PCIe 4.0 but it's blocked
 
Gray2233 said:
I'd be surprised if AMD did that but it's entirely possible.
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Damn, b550 flagship rolling out hard. ASRock and Asus the same


The GIGABYTE B550 AORUS Master is the company's most premium offering based on this chipset, and is the only other board than the ASRock Taichi to feature three M.2 slots. Like the ASUS Strix-E, you get two PCI-Express 4.0 x16 slots (x8/x8 with both populated); reinforced PCIe and memory slots; a digital POST code, GIGABYTE's premium AMP-UP onboard audio solution, VRM heatinks with real fin-stacks; and 802.11ax + 2.5 GbE connectivity.
 
Gray2233 said:
Awesome on paper, I'm looking forward to seeing some tear downs/reviews on them.

Must admit, that Aorus Master you posted above is a gorgeous board.

Lets hope the quality we've seen with Gigabyte's X570's trickles down to the B550 range.
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More details on b550 Vs b450 ... @EsaT now I'm feeling bad for stating b450 MSI and 3600 with 'upgrade later '

Last year is like the master B550 is higher spec for features then x570 and z390.. just vrms, bet it'll be doublets or lessor MOSFETs
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Top left is B550, right is x570 and bottom left is z390 . So shares current/ older styling but not new z490 design

B550 master doesn't have a chipset fans by the looks...
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lnoton said:
If I'd waited... I would have had the b550 over the x570.

Price? £220?
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Elite 12 phases £200 mark, UD and Gaming X being 10 phases at £150-170 I'd say it'll have to sit at £150 and below .
Master B550 Def has more features then x570 UD or Gaming and Even Elite !
Only the top GPU slot being PCIe4 (I think) would keep costs down.
They have gotten better at PCIe 4.0 implementation. Z490 matched z390 prices unlike x570 to x470 ... Also trx40 Xtreme was the same pricing as x570 Xtreme but had triple the PCIe 4.0 lanes !

For gigabyte, entry B450 with Ryzen 3300x and 3600 and Master b550 with 3900 will be the big sellers for them
 
Armageus said:
No that slide specifically says 3000 series with integrated graphics - aka Zen+ (not Zen2 like "actual" 3000 series chips).

Taking that slide at face value means that only 4xx and 5xx chipsets support 3000 Zen2 chips, which as we already know isn't the case.
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That could be Zen2 with Navi iGPU running Ryzen 4400G .. being actually Ryzen 3000 cores.

Slide is messy as , but seems more likely that b450 isn't meant to support 4000 series, specially if it's meant to be over 16 cores... Vendor already gave away that scenario at x570 launch and gas wiped all marketing references quickly afterwards

ryzen 3000 APUs with Zen+/2000 cores was via bios updates , if vendor rolled then out
 
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Jamin280672 said:
No it doesn't have a chipset fan, because it's not an AMD South bridge, it's made by asmedia, which will also probably mean those bottom slots and m.2 slots won't be pci-e 4, which means if you fill both slots with nvme drives, they'll run in x2 mode (half speed) and you'll probably loose the use of the bottom x4 slot as you did on x470 etc.
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https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews...t_you_need_to_know_about_amd_s_b550_chipset/1

Chipset diagram here

And your right, top m.2 and main GPU slot is PCIe 4.0

The. You've got dual x4 PCIe 3.0 m.2
 
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BongoHunter said:
As long as Pcie 3 is the new min on B550 it should be more than adequate, really hoping to see some boards with capability of dual x8 slots
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Believe the master is , just only the primary is reinforced .
Only 2 boards have triple m.2 slots being this and the Taichi, but if rest if range did guessing x570 sales would be gone !

Will be switching from x470 Aorus 7 to this !

FireTwo said:
good lookin board that!
msi unify all matt black seems real appealing also
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Doea look good, glad the didn't use the new z490 IO cover but wishing they used the z490 cover over the chipset and m.2 though . Bridge the gaps in the product lines.

Think this is the only board with straight phases, 14+2 . Think Taichi, Unify and Strix use doublers
 
Joxeon said:
If I was reading this in July 2019 I would have thought great and probably would have brought one but they have arrived to late and it looks like they will have a substantial price increase over b450 with many features a budget/low end user won't need.
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From £100 to £200 , replacing entry x570 boards.

Want b450 pricing before they shot up, then A520 - ryzen 3000 doesn't need to be manually overclocked
 
Joxeon said:
Where is A520 though what budget option is available now with ongoing support?

Cheap CPUs are all well and good but not if the motherboards are either unavailable or expensive.
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B450 aren't budget, not anymore. Toma released at £80 price, now it's £125 odd. Regardless if max version as it's just a larger bios chip that costs $1 extra .
People will just have to wait . Personally now would just wait a month for £80 b550 gigabyte UD or its rival equivalent .

Life suck but AMD has to make money . Best value to to wait as above :)
 
Troezar said:
Looks a nice board. As long as it's not better than my Aorus Master X570 I'll be happy ;) In all seriousness though it's good to see so many quality motherboards available for AMD these days.
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X570 master = 12x70amps Straight , 6 layer PCB and higher PCIe4.0 lanes , dual 8 pins

B550 master = 14 phases straight (me get be 50/55amps) , 6 layer PCB , less PCIe 4.0 lanes , 4+8 pin

If you want the best but no after full PCIe 4.0 implementation then you'll go B550 master , want full fat is 570 Master . Least with Aorus I think b550 range goes underneath their x570 counter part for power but cheaper with less PCIe 4.0 and PCB layers
 
B@Th*nG said:
Would you mind elaborating on this a little bit? I'm just looking up the necessaries for an upgrade from a q6600 so I'm out of the loop.

Why do the number of pcb layers matter?

You've said "if you want the best but no after full PCIe 4.0 implementation then you'll go B550 master" - is it just the number of pcie 4.0 slots (for the super fast m2 ssds) that are limited? They aren't slower or anything? I will likely just have large primary m2 ssd for o/s and game performance and then SATA for storage so I assume this won't be a problem?

Thanks!
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More phases, the better the power delivery for either high number of cores or very high overclocked with voltage or both ! Less chances of CPU speed throttling down .

More layers normally equals more complex engineering to minimise interference in the circuitry.

For gaming and more applications, your not going to see a difference between PCIe 3.0 and 4.0 ssd.
Flagship b550 match mid range x570 for having 3x m.2 slots are slightly cheaper prices so sorted in storage front
 
So... I was completely wrong. Not 50/55amps as found in the recently released Z490 but then went 70amps !!!!!

14 direct 70 Amos phases... No doublers !

In terms of VRM capabilities, it looks like AORUS has some impressive options lineup up with the B550 AORUS Master offering a 14+2 phase Infineon Digital PWM (70A), the B550 AORUS PRO offering a 12+2 Intersil Digital PWM with 50A DrMOS stages, B550I AORUS PRO AX offering a 6+2 phase Intersil Digital PWM with 90A Dr.MOS stages and finally, the B550 Vision D which packs a 12+2 phase Intersil 50A PWM design. The lineup consists of the following models which will be available at launch:
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https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10#kf
 
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Believe master is £250 . Main point I was saying is x570 is dead now until x670 .

Gaming Elite and Tomahawk is plenty enough b550 wise , should run 4000hz too .

Way to look is design. X570 Xtreme and trx40 Xtreme cost almost the same at launch. Extra £150 for the TRX40 but that had triple the amount of ram, PCIe lanes and pathways and the phases in it. Desiging PCIe 4.0 got a lot cheaper, plus bulk buying of phases and other parts, which are refused else were in future products etc
 
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