B550 Aorus Master - 14x 70amps Direct Phases ! 980a Vcore...insane

orbitalwalsh · 7 May 2020 at 16:35

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10#kf

So, b450 can't support Zen 3 / Ryzen 4000

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14+2 VRM set up. NO DOUBLEES

Keep the costs down could be 1 hi and 1 low side MOSFET so not integrated or 40/50 amp integrated MOSFET

The GIGABYTE B550 AORUS Master is the company's most premium offering based on this chipset, and is the only other board than the ASRock Taichi to feature three M.2 slots. Like the ASUS Strix-E, you get two PCI-Express 4.0 x16 slots (x8/x8 with both populated); reinforced PCIe and memory slots; a digital POST code, GIGABYTE's premium AMP-UP onboard audio solution, VRM heatinks with real fin-stacks; and 802.11ax + 2.5 GbE connectivity.

https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2020/05/AORUS-B550-MASTER.jpg

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Late release of B550 would mean no B650 for Zen 3 but allow x670 to come out with more PCIe 4.0 support

Minstadave · 7 May 2020 at 16:38

Nice looking board, fanless?

Gray2233 · 7 May 2020 at 16:40

Pretty sure it's already been confirmed that B450 will support Ryzen 4000, although it'll depend on the motherboard manufacturer to supply the correct bios for it.

I can't see why B450/X470 would have such a short shelf life when AMD has supported every other chipset under AM4 for as long.

willhub · 7 May 2020 at 16:46

That chart isn't correct, my B350F supports 3000 series processors.

orbitalwalsh · 7 May 2020 at 17:08

willhub said:
That chart isn't correct, my B350F supports 3000 series processors.

3rd row down. Table is poorly done

Gray2233 said:
Pretty sure it's already been confirmed that B450 will support Ryzen 4000, although it'll depend on the motherboard manufacturer to supply the correct bios for it.

Though could all be wrong and b450 Max etc can support it

I can't see why B450/X470 would have such a short shelf life when AMD has supported every other chipset under AM4 for as long.

Most bios chips were low in storage . Power delivery and money ... AMD makes more money with new chipsets sold .
They now have the market share, but to make more cash you need to raise prices or increase even more marketshare

Gray2233 · 7 May 2020 at 17:14

orbitalwalsh said:
Most bios chips were low in storage . Power delivery and money ... AMD makes more money with new chipsets sold .
They now have the market share, but to make more cash you need to raise prices or increase even more marketshare

True.

I still expect this to depend on the manufacturer to some extent as we've already had some come forward and say it's possible to run 4000 series on B450 chipsets.

It would surprise me if the MSI Max boards didn't get a bios update for example.

orbitalwalsh · 7 May 2020 at 17:27

Gray2233 said:
True.

I still expect this to depend on the manufacturer to some extent as we've already had some come forward and say it's possible to run 4000 series on B450 chipsets.

It would surprise me if the MSI Max boards didn't get a bios update for example.

AMD can easily force it though, bit like Intel . B450 can do PCIe 4.0 but it's blocked

Gray2233 · 7 May 2020 at 17:37

orbitalwalsh said:
AMD can easily force it though, bit like Intel . B450 can do PCIe 4.0 but it's blocked

I'd be surprised if AMD did that but it's entirely possible.

orbitalwalsh · 7 May 2020 at 17:42

Gray2233 said:
I'd be surprised if AMD did that but it's entirely possible.

Damn, b550 flagship rolling out hard. ASRock and Asus the same

The GIGABYTE B550 AORUS Master is the company's most premium offering based on this chipset, and is the only other board than the ASRock Taichi to feature three M.2 slots. Like the ASUS Strix-E, you get two PCI-Express 4.0 x16 slots (x8/x8 with both populated); reinforced PCIe and memory slots; a digital POST code, GIGABYTE's premium AMP-UP onboard audio solution, VRM heatinks with real fin-stacks; and 802.11ax + 2.5 GbE connectivity.

Gray2233 · 7 May 2020 at 18:14

orbitalwalsh said:
Damn, b550 flagship rolling out hard. ASRock and Asus the same

The GIGABYTE B550 AORUS Master is the company's most premium offering based on this chipset, and is the only other board than the ASRock Taichi to feature three M.2 slots. Like the ASUS Strix-E, you get two PCI-Express 4.0 x16 slots (x8/x8 with both populated); reinforced PCIe and memory slots; a digital POST code, GIGABYTE's premium AMP-UP onboard audio solution, VRM heatinks with real fin-stacks; and 802.11ax + 2.5 GbE connectivity.

Awesome on paper, I'm looking forward to seeing some tear downs/reviews on them.

Must admit, that Aorus Master you posted above is a gorgeous board.

Lets hope the quality we've seen with Gigabyte's X570's trickles down to the B550 range.

Relentless81 · 7 May 2020 at 18:58

Looks good but I don't need half the features, only want one pcie 4 m.2 and one GPU and I don't need the audio

So buy a cheaper board you're probably thinking, well yeah but then everything else on the board is lesser spec too and they don't look as nice

Gray2233 · 7 May 2020 at 19:08

Relentless81 said:
So buy a cheaper board you're probably thinking, well yeah but then everything else on the board is lesser spec too and they don't look as nice

I've got a similar issue, in reality I need a good bare-bones mobo without all the 'features' that pump up the price.

My audio setup is external and connected by USB and HDMI, I don't need tons of M.2 drives or anything like that.

I just want something with good VRM's that looks the part.

orbitalwalsh · 7 May 2020 at 20:04

Gray2233 said:
Awesome on paper, I'm looking forward to seeing some tear downs/reviews on them.

Must admit, that Aorus Master you posted above is a gorgeous board.

Lets hope the quality we've seen with Gigabyte's X570's trickles down to the B550 range.

More details on b550 Vs b450 ... @EsaT now I'm feeling bad for stating b450 MSI and 3600 with 'upgrade later '

Last year is like the master B550 is higher spec for features then x570 and z390.. just vrms, bet it'll be doublets or lessor MOSFETs
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Top left is B550, right is x570 and bottom left is z390 . So shares current/ older styling but not new z490 design

B550 master doesn't have a chipset fans by the looks...

Skynet5 · 8 May 2020 at 08:05

If I'd waited... I would have had the b550 over the x570.

Price? £220?

orbitalwalsh · 8 May 2020 at 08:24

lnoton said:
If I'd waited... I would have had the b550 over the x570.

Price? £220?

Elite 12 phases £200 mark, UD and Gaming X being 10 phases at £150-170 I'd say it'll have to sit at £150 and below .
Master B550 Def has more features then x570 UD or Gaming and Even Elite !
Only the top GPU slot being PCIe4 (I think) would keep costs down.
They have gotten better at PCIe 4.0 implementation. Z490 matched z390 prices unlike x570 to x470 ... Also trx40 Xtreme was the same pricing as x570 Xtreme but had triple the PCIe 4.0 lanes !

For gigabyte, entry B450 with Ryzen 3300x and 3600 and Master b550 with 3900 will be the big sellers for them

Armageus · 8 May 2020 at 08:43

orbitalwalsh said:
3rd row down. Table is poorly done

No that slide specifically says 3000 series with integrated graphics - aka Zen+ (not Zen2 like "actual" 3000 series chips).

Taking that slide at face value means that only 4xx and 5xx chipsets support 3000 Zen2 chips, which as we already know isn't the case.

orbitalwalsh · 8 May 2020 at 08:56

Armageus said:
No that slide specifically says 3000 series with integrated graphics - aka Zen+ (not Zen2 like "actual" 3000 series chips).

Taking that slide at face value means that only 4xx and 5xx chipsets support 3000 Zen2 chips, which as we already know isn't the case.

That could be Zen2 with Navi iGPU running Ryzen 4400G .. being actually Ryzen 3000 cores.

Slide is messy as , but seems more likely that b450 isn't meant to support 4000 series, specially if it's meant to be over 16 cores... Vendor already gave away that scenario at x570 launch and gas wiped all marketing references quickly afterwards

ryzen 3000 APUs with Zen+/2000 cores was via bios updates , if vendor rolled then out

Jamin280672 · 8 May 2020 at 09:11

No it doesn't have a chipset fan, because it's not an AMD South bridge, it's made by asmedia, which will also probably mean those bottom slots and m.2 slots won't be pci-e 4, which means if you fill both slots with nvme drives, they'll run in x2 mode (half speed) and you'll probably loose the use of the bottom x4 slot as you did on x470 etc.

orbitalwalsh · 8 May 2020 at 09:21

Jamin280672 said:
No it doesn't have a chipset fan, because it's not an AMD South bridge, it's made by asmedia, which will also probably mean those bottom slots and m.2 slots won't be pci-e 4, which means if you fill both slots with nvme drives, they'll run in x2 mode (half speed) and you'll probably loose the use of the bottom x4 slot as you did on x470 etc.

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews...t_you_need_to_know_about_amd_s_b550_chipset/1

Chipset diagram here

And your right, top m.2 and main GPU slot is PCIe 4.0

The. You've got dual x4 PCIe 3.0 m.2

BongoHunter · 13 May 2020 at 23:01

As long as Pcie 3 is the new min on B550 it should be more than adequate, really hoping to see some boards with capability of dual x8 slots