Baby killer convicted...


Wow, looks LOVELY. And it's in South Doncaster, where do I sign???

Quit your whining and write to your MP if you think it's too easy for them.

Hmm, I live in Hartlepool. Firstly, we used to have Mandy. We now have another Blairite idiot who made his money in taxis. Unfortunate but if I was the Labour candidate, I'd win. Add to that the previous incument of no 10's wife just happened to be a human rights lawyer who made her money making sure that government policy made her retirement fund grow fat, regardless of the consequences and we are now in a situation where it going to change jack. Are you telling me it's hard in prison. Of course it is love....

You got what you paid for from who you voted for and who you lobbied. Write to them if you're unhappy. Besides, him and plenty of other people are behind bars. That's got to be worth something.

Err...no I didn't. The guy I voted for didn't get in. And let's think why. Who is in all day and has the chance to sloth down to the polling station...the guy who is working or the dole moochers? The people who I vote for are not in power. THose in power have systematically increased the easy ride mentality and helped proliferate this compensation culture where prisons dare not question the prisoners rights to do wha they want.

Stop making assumptions about the killer. You don't know a thing about him you classist pillock.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/7662101.stm

Again, what a lovely 'des res' he was living in. House prices at a magnificent £79k, less than half the national average. Attractively situated on the junction between the M18 and the A1M, the Home Office take on Edlington is as follows:

http://press.homeoffice.gov.uk/press-releases/Doncaster_Tackling_Anti-Social_B?version=1

Of course 'things have changed...'

He was expelled from school. His teacher at the time said, and I quote:

This boy will commit a murder before too long.

"I've never seen a such a disturbed young man."

Then we have the article in The Sun from which we get the fact he admitted smoking weed whilst looking after her. He takes drugs:

The Sun said:
He said he had taken her downstairs, smoked some cannabis while cradling her until they both fell asleep. He woke up the next morning and realised there was something wrong.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1788842.ece

Then we can use what is called an 'educated guess'. He was expelled from school, so education is going to be limited. There is not a single mention in any story about him having any form of employment. If he was unemployed, he couldn't afford to go away etc. He lives in a poor area. Yes I am making assumptions, but they are better and more grounded than the assumtions You are making about me!


You can't smoke in your own home? I find that hard to believe. Again, I note the wild assumptions you're making about his driving license, his holiday habits, and his circle of friends.


You don't know the first thing about his existence besides the fact that he brutally killed a baby. You are the proverbial assuming ass.

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I can't smoke in an enclosed public place. He can. Again, making suppositions, there is simply no mention in any press coverage of any friends as character witnesses, any employers, any form of gainful employment. Nothing. The papers will report anything they possibly can, there simply isn't any mention of that and as said previously, you can't go on holiday with no money!

I know that he systematically killed a baby that could not defend herself. Over an extended period of time. I know he is violent from themedia coverage and I know that at least one former teacher stated that this child would kll. I know he takes drugs. I can see what a scruffy looking house he has in a less than ideal area. I know he showed no remorse and I know that this is simply not normal - the man is not reacting as he should on an emotional level. Add to that he chose a girlfried who is in the bottom 1% of intelligence and "completely dominated her", all of this points to specific personality disorders and issues which would make the forming for normal human relationships very difficult if not impossible.

Finally, if I knew nothing else, I would know in every fibre of my being that this man has done something so evil, he should never see the light of day again and should NEVER be rewarded in the slightest for his crime. Do you you disagree?

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Wow.

I'm suprised you could actually see his post from the altitude of that high horse you are on.

Spot on!
 
I'd ask you to point out where any of us hippies said he shouldn't be punished, but as none of us said that, I won't ask you to do the impossible.


I don’t have the time nor patients to put you right, you seem to have too much time on your hands to comment on all these other peoples posts when you yourself state that no one opinons matter here (but obviously that statment of yours doesnt include yourself).

All I can say is welcome to the internet, where people are allowed to have their say.

Also. Lol, just lol. The guy should die.
 
Wow.

I'm suprised you could actually see his post from the altitude of that high horse you are on.

As opposed to the "OMG KILL HIMZZZ TORTURE!!!" chants of the baying internetz-mob? Lol.

People complain about the punishment for criminal offences being too lenient, and yet will do nothing about it. That's lol-material right there.

I don’t have the time nor patients to put you right, you seem to have too much time on your hands to comment on all these other peoples posts when you yourself state that no one opinons matter here (but obviously that statment of yours doesnt include yourself).

All I can say is welcome to the internet, where people are allowed to have their say.

Also. Lol, just lol. The guy should die.

I think he was pointing out that people who post on the internet, saying "x should happen" or "he's a dirty x" really are not making an impact in changing the system to act out their desires.

I'd also say he was responding to your psychotic desire to torture a human being. Have you sought medical help yet?
 
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Oh hush. That's just a cheap way of saying you disagree with me and think I'm trying to take some sort of moral high ground.

You're half right, it was a shot but not a cheap one. Unfortunatley the most popular sport on OcUK forums seems to be jumping on peoples posts you disagree with in the most condesending and abusive manner permitted, and you have fallen into that category.
 
As opposed to the "OMG KILL HIMZZZ TORTURE!!!" chants of the baying internetz-mob? Lol.

Its a bit late, and admittedly I've had a few beers but unless you're being melodractic to anyone with a different opinion to yours please quote where anyone has actually said "OMG KILL HIMZZZ TORTURE!!!"
 
Its a bit late, and admittedly I've had a few beers but unless you're being melodractic to anyone with a different opinion to yours please quote where anyone has actually said "OMG KILL HIMZZZ TORTURE!!!"

i think they should be put in severe pain and made to live that way (wishing they were dead).

He deserves castration!

Dropping the soap or not...he gon get raped (or worse).

he seems like an ideal candidate for experimental drug research.

id rather him being beaten every day so he wants to kill himself but never gets the chance

I say public flog him then hang him till he's dead, dead, dead.

Hopefully some other prisoners will flush his balls down the toilet.

Ergo, he should become a snuggly-bunny for the lifer with the biggest manhood, most STD's and the worst breath.

He should be given death for that.

He should have his limbs ripped off one by one and then have his back snapped in two all over a period of days to gain maximum pain

He should be dead by now.

Il bring the large rusty nails!

Also. Lol, just lol. The guy should die.

Unless you were being literal in which case, no one said "OMG KILL HIMZZZ TORTURE!!!".
 
Unless you were being literal in which case, no one said "OMG KILL HIMZZZ TORTURE!!!".

Well they haven't have they? Admittedly they have been pretty graphic with punishments for him, but I'm sure their sentiments are pretty much far from omg lol!!11oneone! Unless you are suggesting that peple posting on here thing this is as a laughing matter?

Just because they're opinions are diffent and more forthright from yours doesn't make them any less valid.
 
I'd also say he was responding to your psychotic desire to torture a human being. Have you sought medical help yet?

Ever held a baby in your arms? Could you ever mentally put yourself in a position to do what he did? The guy is evil.
If you cant show the true raw emotion that this thread generates then you are either a lawyer or you are not even human, your a waste of oxygen. Trying to go against the tide in this situation only proves you're an idiot.
And dont give me some kind of sweet hearted, calm reply coz it wont stick with me. You're a moron.
 
Nothing can bring the baby back to life, nothing will justify its death. Not justice system, not prisoners themselves.

I just take solace in the fact that bad things will happen to bad people.




Hmm, well I agree the justice system is ****. I disagree about where the punishment will come from.

I'd say the same thing out loud as I am doing on this forum and that is hopefully he will get what is coming to him/what he deserves. Clearly I am an idiot for wishing bad things on a baby killer.

I'm sure everybody hopes he gets whats coming to him. Wishing bad things on a baby killer does not make you an idiot, as I'm fairly sure everybody is thinking the same thing. Ranting about how you want to put pineapples up him and give him an extra slippery bar of soap in prison does. (neither you have said but you get my jist:p)
 
That's awful. I just cant understand what runs through these peoples minds. I'm surprised he wasn't pleading insanity or something.

How absolutely disgusting, that poor little girl.
 
Ever held a baby in your arms? Could you ever mentally put yourself in a position to do what he did? The guy is evil.
If you cant show the true raw emotion that this thread generates then you are either a lawyer or you are not even human, your a waste of oxygen. Trying to go against the tide in this situation only proves you're an idiot.
And dont give me some kind of sweet hearted, calm reply coz it wont stick with me. You're a moron.

I've held my baby daughter in my arms - does that count? I'd be devastated if anything happened to her, and would want justice served, but I also understand that no amount of punishment or revenge would bring her back and it probably wouldn't make me feel any better either. Lawyer? Inhuman? Whatever. I don't have the time or energy to be outraged all the time, which you say is the only proper response to the horrors we see every day. I just hope that justice will be served as best as it can be and get on with my life.
 
Let's torture some criminals, for we are civilised people.

indeed, what I always find quite amazing is that while people call for these atrocities to be commited (god knows who they'd find to do them, as anyone capable of commiting such an act should be reciving medical help), the countries where they do such things are all generrally **** holes with far worse crime rates and far more brutal crimes than places with a more civilized aproch.
 
Ever held a baby in your arms? Could you ever mentally put yourself in a position to do what he did? The guy is evil.
If you cant show the true raw emotion that this thread generates then you are either a lawyer or you are not even human, your a waste of oxygen. Trying to go against the tide in this situation only proves you're an idiot.
And dont give me some kind of sweet hearted, calm reply coz it wont stick with me. You're a moron.

I can appreciate the emotion, and I know of it. I do not, however, let it take control and desire to go on a bloody rampage.

It is true that I could never do such a thing to a baby, or to anyone, for that fact, but I don't let my emotions rule me. I'm not a caveman, I'm civilised and I can see that killing a man for killing another does not solve any problems.

To be honest, you sound more like someone who is going to harm someone, based on your attitude.

Just because they're opinions are diffent and more forthright from yours doesn't make them any less valid.

No, you are right. It doesn't make them less valid. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I am, however, challenging those opinions. I find it a little amusing to find that people will shout out their opinions and feelings on the matter, and yet will do nothing else. They obviously find this matter to be something that requires change, and yet they will do nothing about it other than to put themselves on a high pedestal and shout down anyone who doesn't agree with that opinion.

And as I have said before, I don't believe that the death penalty is a suitable or effective form of punishment. I can see how some do - in many ways 'life' is the ultimate possession, and by taking it away, obviously, you remove that privelege. I do find that, however, it is not as simple as that. That person is simply a sum of their experiences, their circumstances - that doesn't excuse what they did, but it means that anyone in the same position may have done exactly the same. He must be punished, but in a way that afterwards he knows what he did was wrong and that he can re-enter society and become a contributing member.

I believe that education, rather than execution is what criminals need. I do not think torture is acceptable either - that is an abomination.
 
This thread =

Society has a vested interest in considerable losses and catastrophes. These wars, famines, floods and quakes meet well-defined needs. Man wants chaos. In fact, he's gotta have it. Depression, strife, riots, murder, all this dread. We're irresistibly drawn to that almost orgiastic state created out of death and destruction. It's in all of us. We revel in it.

Sure, the media tries to put a sad face on these things, painting them up as great human tragedies. But we all know the function of the media has never been to eliminate the evils of the world, no. Their job is to persuade us to accept those evils and get used to living with them. The powers that be want us to be passive observers."

Basically, all these "OMG KILL THE MURDERER" comments are laughable

You weren't there to stop the baby getting killed. You didn't care when it was going through months of pain.

You only care after it's dead, after it's been reported about in the media.

And yet you still get all angry.
 
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