Bad IPS glow unavoidable?

Yeah, to reiterate, the camera does exaggerate the problem. But it is certainly noticeable.
It is noticeable in that space picture in the video. In fact any time when the displayed image is dark there will be a visible milkiness in the bottom right corner - but it does not appear to the eye as starkly conspicuous as it does in the pics/video.
I'd probably think this was as good as this panel gets had I not seen that video that I linked to in post #10.
So I'm probably going to return it again to Amazon and give it one more go!
 
jamieboo said:
I would definitely say that the problem is more conspicuous on camera compared to the naked eye.
Evsknight, would you be able to take a picture of your monitor displaying a dark screen from your normal viewing position to compare with mine?

Thanks.
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Sure.

Here's the first taken in daylight (didn't help I have a white polo shirt on doh) but you can see no bleed in the day

http://imgur.com/PoJ97hM,zKcgsql#0

And here's the one taken with blackout curtains and door closed etc

http://imgur.com/PoJ97hM,zKcgsql#1

If I put 'night mode' on the camera, it did pick up more glow on the bottom right but I can't see that much anyway so it's misleading so I didn't bother uploading that one.

Hope it helps.

P.s. looks like I need to clean my screen from the first photo :)
 
Hmm... have you got dynamic brightness or contrast enabled?

Watched the video and it seems theres a moment's delay from you closing the forum to the glow appearing (0.29-0.30), unless that's just the camera taking a moment to adjust to the change in brightness?
 
Thanks evsknight - that makes for a very interesting comparison!

Haggisman - yeah, I said in the video that that 'glow delay' is only visible on camera as it adjusts to the different brightness. To the naked eye it's instant.
 
No problems, hope your second one resolves things. Let me know if there's anything else I can get you or check for you on mine.

But no, you can't have my terminator skull under my monitor :P
 
To be honest whether its the camera or not it just shows you how bad monitors are at the moment. If you cant see it in normal circumstances its acceptable and you can use it but underlying fact is bottom corner is awful compared to the rest of the monitor. Doesnt matter whether the camera sees it more or not fact is its there. If the monitor screen was designed well it would be a uniform black. Fact!

Could be its been like this for a few years its only now that people are getting annoyed about it. Whats happening lately is some people call it fear mongering or blowing things out of proportion when in fact its consumers getting fed up with poor manufacturing processes after paying £500+ for a monitor. The bad thing is I can't see it changing anytime soon.
 
I have RMA'd mine. The IPS glow isn't too bad but the noise/artifacts while watching video content is so annoying.

People have been complaining about ASUS customer service, but I just wrote to the tech support about the problems I am having. They wrote back with a link for the RMA. I filled in the details and sent it off. Expecting that I was going to be without a monitor for a month at least. But, in fairness to Asus, they accepted the RMA and are sending me a replacement first and I return the faulty monitor with the courier.

Can't ask for more than that.
 
Somebody mentioned the monitor on light. It's something I have been thinking about myself, I wonder is that what's causing the bottom right corner to be worse than the other corners for everyone?

If my replacement monitor is ok and I think it's a keeper I am going to open it and see can I block out the LED somehow. Or maybe take it out completely as it serves no function.
 
jamieboo said:
Thanks evsknight - that makes for a very interesting comparison!

Haggisman - yeah, I said in the video that that 'glow delay' is only visible on camera as it adjusts to the different brightness. To the naked eye it's instant.
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My bad, didn't have sound on so could't hear what you were saying :p
 
That looks pretty bad. Whilst I agree that it is quite a big issue that affects almost all modern IPS panels, it's severity does vary. Both my Dell IPS panels exhibit the glow in the corners, but it's not massively noticeable unless I'm looking at it from a very shallow angle or sitting very close to the monitor. Once I am about 2m from the screen, I don't see it at all, even when it's completely dark. It also looks way worse when using a camera to capture the effect.
 
Well from 2m away the glow would disappear for me too but unfortunately I have to sit a bit closer to the screen - nearer 2 feet - and from this distance it means the angle from which the right corner of the screen is perceived is sufficient for this effect to be visible.
Oh well, I've emailed the retailer, let's see if they can give me a second replacement.
If the problem is still there then I'll get on to Asus as you did Melmac. Incidentally, I'll be very interested to hear what your replacement is like - do keep me posted!
 
Lg IPS235 here Brightness 40 contrast at 12

I'd try turning the brightness and contrast way down before making judgement you're going to get glare if it's way up high.
 
Yeah I find the trick with IPS monitors is to put them a little further away. If I watch movies on them I tend to sit further back anyway.

It's a little worrying that these new monitors are so bad for the glow though, as I want to get a 1440p 144hz IPS monitor at some point, and as we know they're expensive.
 
krooton said:
This is why I am giving up on IPS and moving to VA.

Any games, films or tv shows with dark scenes look awful. :(
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Yup spotted similar ips glows on the newer LGs and Sony big screen TVs also, colours and angles look great naturally but with VA/SPVA/PVA what ever similar type panels and blacks just look deep black and accurate and no glow.

Hopefully we get some VA panels with 144hertz and 4K for PC screens!
 
R3X said:
Yup spotted similar ips glows on the newer LGs and Sony big screen TVs also, colours and angles look great naturally but with VA/SPVA/PVA what ever similar type panels and blacks just look deep black and accurate and no glow.

Hopefully we get some VA panels with 144hertz and 4K for PC screens!
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Tbh, I'd be happy with a 120/144hz 1440p, best you can get at the moment seems to be 75hz @ 1440p. :(
 
Well...
The retailer first said they were going to have their Fulfilment Centre team physically examine other MG279Qs they have in stock to see how widespread the fault was, then if they found a good one they would send me that, if not I'd send mine back for a refund.
Fair enough.
But I just got another message from them now saying that actually they can't do that as the packages are sealed so they could not open to examine. D'oh.
They've asked me for some details so they can investigate the problem, and while they're investigating they said they're going to withdraw the item from sale!
In the meantime, I'm to return this my second MG279Q for a full refund.
Pfft.
So, I'll be without a monitor.
Can anyone please tell me of a 27" IPS 1440p monitor that is subject to Quality Assurance of sufficient competence to minimise the chance of a customer receiving a screen saturated in IPS glow?
144hz would be nice but is not essential.
I will be gaming on this so I'd like good response time and low input lag (so that probably rules out the beautiful blacks of a VA panel) And one of the games I'll be playing is Elite Dangerous - a dark game that will reveal unsightly levels of IPS glow in an instant.
Or is that a quest for something that doesn't exist?
I mean maybe I should be widening my parameters and considering TNs. Just how bad will their eccentricities appear on a 27" panel? Are the colours really anaemic?
Help me out folks! :)

Thanks
 
After the retailer got in touch with me and said they couldn't provide another replacement and that all they could offer was a refund, I thought I'd get on to Asus again to see if they could help at all.
Just because it might be of interest to others, here's their response...

Dear Mr. Jamie,

Thank you for contacting ASUS. We are sorry to hear that also your second replacement monitor is showing the backlight glow. Taking in consideration that this is already your second monitor, it can be that the backlight glow is caused by design.

Although by viewing some of the forums, it seems that there are also MG279Q LCD monitors that do not suffer from the bleeding or at least have a smaller percentage of bleeding.

Unfortunately just as the reseller, we also cannot say that if we issued another replacement monitor, if this will be free of the backlight glow problem.

We are sorry for the inconvenience that was caused.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards,

Patrick K
ASUS UK Support Team
 
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