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bad news.

Goksly said:
Read the article but dont understand how that is the same as:
. Isnt it just for people who want to watch HD-DVD/Blu-Ray on their PC?

Yes.

High defintion still works without hdcp, and hdcp wont be implemented until a couple of years after blu-ray.
 
Problem with that system is that the secret keys given to comapnies will be leaked or hacked from legit devices and then programmed into hacked devices and then peoples tvs wont work with new hd movies, then there will be laws made preventing sony and microsoft from using hdcp like this.

Its ridiculous and impossible to implement, there would be a massive uprising against companies and you would end up with no ones tv working with new movies and no one buying them anymore because of it, the idea is hilarious. Its copy protected so well that it will lose more money than being pirated. :rolleyes:
 
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As the second article stated, given the holes in HDMI it would appear that the companies are more interested in being able to sue than actually stopping the piracy - in a twisted sort of way this kind of makes sense - they never will be able to stop piracy (the joke that is css on DVDs is testament to that) but if they can simply recoup their losses through easy win lawsuits... (which we're paying for) - ;)

See a lot of sense in that logic. If you can't beat 'em, sue 'em!
 
Energize said:
Yes.

High defintion still works without hdcp, and hdcp wont be implemented until a couple of years after blu-ray.
Well if thats the case then the original post is a bit.... excessive? Mine, and i'd imagine many others, primary use of a graphics card is to play games - not movies..... making the current crop of graphics cards very useful under vista?
 
Goksly said:
Well if thats the case then the original post is a bit.... excessive? Mine, and i'd imagine many others, primary use of a graphics card is to play games - not movies..... making the current crop of graphics cards very useful under vista?

I think its mostly the direct x 10 thing that everyones complaining about in relation to gfx cards and games in vista.
 
thats not big deal..... DX9 cards will be able to run all the DX10 stuff, just with certain effects missing. I think its good they are doing this - every now and then you have to cut out history and move forward. They are supporting past DX's with wrappers, but the core DX is/should be totally new and thus they are allowed to improve the very core of DX.

People are getting to worried without even seeing the performance hit of using a wrapper. Lets see that before we start getting stroppy :}
 
I don't care as I will of probably upgraded my graphics card three or four times between now and Vistas release anyway!

These things always get hyped to a ridiculous level!
 
i reckon there will be 3 version of vista:

Vista home
vista Professional
Vista Media Center ----->require DX10 card and HDCP screen.
 
It said there was going to be 5 or 6.

Home Basic
Home Professional
Ultimate
Business
Home Media Centre

Something like that
 
Thats great that, the new benchmark, forget yer 3D Marks just use Vista.

Hey my machines got a rating of 4, damn mines only a 3, DAMN YOU WITH YOUR BIGGER PENIS!!!!. :D
 
cavemanoc said:
Tell that to the people that got stung by Sony's root-kit!

Exactly - this is the point, it's not about the incidences where it all works fine (forgetting for a moment that there are fundamental consumer rights being smothered by DRM), it is when it goes wrong and there is insufficient support from the companies that implemented the DRM in the first place. Like you said earlier, all they are doing is enabling lawsuits.
 
So now that I have just bought a 'HD Ready' samsung LCD TV with an HDMI connection and a Samsung HD850 HDMI DVD player I will not be able to watch HD-DVD's becasue my TV doesnt support HDCP.

Tell you what, all this malarky has gotton me confused. Can someone just explain what the read me all these standards mean and how they link up with eachother?

Seems as if some tech guy gets drunked up and says 'i think ill call this HDDVDCPDMI next and I wont make work if you dont have IMDPCDVDDH compatibale chip with a MRDDRMZPO number built into a specially designed decoder chip which features a ZX4.321 V1 code'.

What a load of coreperate bllcks.
 
King_Boru said:
So now that I have just bought a 'HD Ready' samsung LCD TV with an HDMI connection and a Samsung HD850 HDMI DVD player I will not be able to watch HD-DVD's becasue my TV doesnt support HDCP.

Tell you what, all this malarky has gotton me confused. Can someone just explain what the read me all these standards mean and how they link up with eachother?

Seems as if some tech guy gets drunked up and says 'i think ill call this HDDVDCPDMI next and I wont make work if you dont have IMDPCDVDDH compatibale chip with a MRDDRMZPO number built into a specially designed decoder chip which features a ZX4.321 V1 code'.

What a load of coreperate bllcks.

Well the gist I get is that none of the protection systems discussed are totally finalised and we won't have the final word until the first pieces of hardware roll out of the factory...

What you, my friend, might suffer from is early adoption syndrome :D

All this is motivated by an underlying need to scr** the consumer out of as much money as possible over the shortest period of time!
:p
 
The ICT (image constraint token) has been recently given a 4 year holiday so will not be implemented until 2010 @ the very earliest so all current displays should support HD-DVD & Blu-Ray up to the hardware limit on the display device so it will just revert to the next best picture/resolution if your monitor cannot handle the full resolution.

The reason the movie studios have changed their minds is because obviously no-one is gonna scrap their brand new pride & joy LCD-TV or plasma just to get HDCP.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/showthread.php?t=235144
 
AWPC said:
The ICT (image constraint token) has been recently given a 4 year holiday so will not be implemented until 2010 @ the very earliest so all current displays should support HD-DVD & Blu-Ray up to the hardware limit on the display device so it will just revert to the next best picture/resolution if your monitor cannot handle the full resolution.

The reason the movie studios have changed their minds is because obviously no-one is gonna scrap their brand new pride & joy LCD-TV or plasma just to get HDCP.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/showthread.php?t=235144

Sweeeeeeet :D
 
janesssssy said:
this may be old, however everyone must know this.

All current graphics cards are useless for windows Vista. [/URL]


according to the windows Vista upgrade advisor my pc is fine on all counts, :confused: will have to check out the article.
 
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