Meh by the time HD DVD or Blueray drives are a reasonable price and readily available everyone will have new gfx cards anyway. Big fuss over nothing imo. Has anyone seen the price of the blueray drive on preorder @ ocuk? If you can justify that purchase then a new gfx card shouldn't be a problem.
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Yeah it can run Vista, but not fully, to run Vista fully you need a DX10 card, DX9 cards can not do DX10, so it will be like a cut down version of Vista, as the DX10 stuff will not work.
This is not about Vista - read the article fully! - this is perhaps the most insidious and destructive attack by 'interested' parties since Sony gave us their rootkit - only this time it really might work and destroy your ability to watch your own movies on your own PC!
And as Mistadave pointed out - even hiding behind the 'anyone who watches DVD's on their pc must be a filthy pirate' will not offer you a chance to gloat - EVERY bit of kit involved in the playing of HD content will have to be DRM compliant - that includes the Screen!
So... Not only will you be able to watch your legally bought HD-DVD on your legitimate pc, you won't even be able to watch it properly on your 'HD-ready' £many tv you thought was a good buy!
But wait... there's more - for those that rely on the fact that the system will be cracked within minutes few of it being released - a log will be kept of all cracked hardware, and it will be barred from playing HD-content
This means that every time you run HD content - if a new list of banned players in on the disk it will update all your kit - that means that at the stroke of a binary code, Holywood can disable your machine (yes that includes your set top player!)
Surely this will only affect filthy pirates? Riiiiiiiight, you'll never guess what I saw the pope doing in the Polish woods on sky tonight?!?!?! It means that any time you run a new HD-DVD there's a chance that you'll lose your kit because someone in the DRM office ****-up and decided that your model was cracked - and guess what you'll be able to do about it? (And no, I don't condone firebombs and multi-generational curses - even if they are aimed at computer-illiterate-troglodite-crybaby-luddites from B***cks-wood!)
This is a serious problem - read the article - seriously - read the article - if you're not outraged - read it again!
And as Mistadave pointed out - even hiding behind the 'anyone who watches DVD's on their pc must be a filthy pirate' will not offer you a chance to gloat - EVERY bit of kit involved in the playing of HD content will have to be DRM compliant - that includes the Screen!
So... Not only will you be able to watch your legally bought HD-DVD on your legitimate pc, you won't even be able to watch it properly on your 'HD-ready' £many tv you thought was a good buy!
But wait... there's more - for those that rely on the fact that the system will be cracked within minutes few of it being released - a log will be kept of all cracked hardware, and it will be barred from playing HD-content
This means that every time you run HD content - if a new list of banned players in on the disk it will update all your kit - that means that at the stroke of a binary code, Holywood can disable your machine (yes that includes your set top player!)
Surely this will only affect filthy pirates? Riiiiiiiight, you'll never guess what I saw the pope doing in the Polish woods on sky tonight?!?!?! It means that any time you run a new HD-DVD there's a chance that you'll lose your kit because someone in the DRM office ****-up and decided that your model was cracked - and guess what you'll be able to do about it? (And no, I don't condone firebombs and multi-generational curses - even if they are aimed at computer-illiterate-troglodite-crybaby-luddites from B***cks-wood!)
This is a serious problem - read the article - seriously - read the article - if you're not outraged - read it again!
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im sorry i mentioned it IN THE FIRST POST.THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT WINDOWS VISTA!!!!!!
I really am amazed how little there has been on this considering the massive impact it is going to have on the way we go about out computing over the next few years. For the first time you will no longer own your system, rather you will 'borrow' it from content owners to be used as they see fit! I have to say I find the whole idea repugnant - already if I find a CD I've bought is 'protected' from play on PC's I take it back - it's time we started taking back the 'fair usage' corner and stood up to this stupidity. As much as I hate to admit it, I think the French have the right idea dealing with Apple's Itunes - I hope it's the start of the end for oppressive DRM.
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the french definately had the right idea (as do the canadians) but i can't see it making much impact.
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What's thos about DirectX 9 cards not supporting HD-DVD I'm sure it reads on my old 6800GS XXX box it supports HD.
Read the Article - seriously - don't skim, don't skip, READ IT 
We should all be very worried - if for no other reason than I can bet they vendors won't be highlighting the fact that your shiny new hardware is incapable of doing the job you bought it for .
The French and Canadians will hopefully prove that nation states are not beholden to individual manufacturers, and will start to protect the consumer rather than the corporate wallet with outrageously-draconeon laws (how the hell can piracy (theft) carry worse penalties than rape FFS talk about losing sight of the big picture!)
As for you guys feeling smug because your kit says HD ready:
READ THE ARTICLE
Don't come crying to us when your first HD-DVD runs at 200*100 resolution through your shiny new GFX card on your Shiny new 'HD-Ready' TV - just don't!
We should all be very worried - if for no other reason than I can bet they vendors won't be highlighting the fact that your shiny new hardware is incapable of doing the job you bought it for .
The French and Canadians will hopefully prove that nation states are not beholden to individual manufacturers, and will start to protect the consumer rather than the corporate wallet with outrageously-draconeon laws (how the hell can piracy (theft) carry worse penalties than rape FFS
talk about losing sight of the big picture!)As for you guys feeling smug because your kit says HD ready:
READ THE ARTICLE
Don't come crying to us when your first HD-DVD runs at 200*100 resolution through your shiny new GFX card on your Shiny new 'HD-Ready' TV - just don't!
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The core security system on the 360 has not been hacked, so it remains a completely closed system.Cyber-Mav said:
What has been hacked is the the protocal between the disc drive and the console, so you can play 'backed up' games, however the process is very complex and it requires new firmware. Microsoft should be able to detect the firmware over Live and ban users accordingly.
HDCP will be hacked - the question is how long will it take?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP
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cavemanoc said:
We know what its about, calm down dear.
I particularly like the fact that even if you buy kit that is compeletely HDCP compliant if the manufacturers fall out with the DRM controllers, they can switch off your kit whenever they like:
So even if you do nothing wrong you can still end up with a useless piece of kit.
Will be interesting to see what happens when all the consumers conned into buying HD-ready tvs find out the 'ready' is not quite true:
Note that the TV/monitor must be HDCP compliant, not just HD ready - at the moment there are only 10 HDCP compliant monitors, think yours is one? Did you when you bought it? Have you been ripped off? (Why did you buy HD-ready if not to be able to watch HD content?)
So even if you do nothing wrong you can still end up with a useless piece of kit.
Will be interesting to see what happens when all the consumers conned into buying HD-ready tvs find out the 'ready' is not quite true:
Note that the TV/monitor must be HDCP compliant, not just HD ready - at the moment there are only 10 HDCP compliant monitors, think yours is one? Did you when you bought it? Have you been ripped off? (Why did you buy HD-ready if not to be able to watch HD content?)
