Bakers refuse Gay wedding cake - update: Supreme Court rules in favour of Bakers

vincent1989 said:
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not commit adultery
Though shalt not steal
Thou shalt not covet
Thou shalt not bear false witness
Love thy neighbour as thyself

Judge not lest ye be judged.
Charity never faileth

Etc etc. I suppose these are mostly irrelevant for modern living. Shame though, I quite like them.
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It also bans bacon. Calls for the execution of children cursing theirs parents, execution for working on a Sunday, bans women speaking in church, and, my favourite, calls for the execution of girls that lose their virginity outside of marriage.

I wouldn't call it an infallible moral guide.
 
Woden said:
It also bans bacon. Calls for the execution of children cursing theirs parents, execution for working on a Sunday, bans women speaking in church, and, my favourite, calls for the execution of girls that lose their virginity outside of marriage.

I wouldn't call it an infallible moral guide.
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Not to mention the endorsement of slavery and genocide. Real family values right there! :p
 
vincent1989 said:
Homosexuals have spread HIV and aids like the plague, I'm sure there was a time people said this:
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The vast majority of HIV transmission done in the world is via heterosexual sexual relations.

I am not entirely sure why some allegedly non-bigoted people are once again trying to link peadophilia and incest with homosexuality but the reasons for the differences in treatment is due to harm done.

With incest you have the significant risk of birth defects. With peadophillia you have the issue that it isn't truely consent. With both you have the issues of the imbalance of power in the relationships leading a lack of true consent.

With homosexuality none of these issues are present in any greater degree than in normal heterosexual relationships. So there is no actual harm in a homosexual relationship.
 
I keep hearing with incest there is birth defects that's why it's illegal, how can two brothers give each other birth defects? Love is love no? Who are we to stop two consenting brothers from getting married? Should Baker's make them a legalise incestal marriage cake against their "outdated morals"?

It's 2016 and next year is 2017
 
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RDM said:
With incest you have the significant risk of birth defects.
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RDM said:
With homosexuality none of these issues are present
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That issue isn't present for homosex because homosex is unable to to give rise to any offspring, let alone defective offspring.

Therefore according to the reason you gave, are you implying incestuous relationships are OK as long as they don't have children like homosexuals can't/don't?
 
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RDM said:
The vast majority of HIV transmission done in the world is via heterosexual sexual relations.

I am not entirely sure why some allegedly non-bigoted people are once again trying to link peadophilia and incest with homosexuality but the reasons for the differences in treatment is due to harm done.

With incest you have the significant risk of birth defects. With peadophillia you have the issue that it isn't truely consent. With both you have the issues of the imbalance of power in the relationships leading a lack of true consent.

With homosexuality none of these issues are present in any greater degree than in normal heterosexual relationships. So there is no actual harm in a homosexual relationship.
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[incest] is perfectly legal in say, France, portugal, Poland, Cyprus, the Ukraine, Spain, the ivory coast, the netherlands and Australia to name a few.

Homosexuals have spread HIV and aids like the plague, I'm sure there was a time people said this:

"Point is? The is a reason and its the same reason for all illegal banned sexual practises, its not safe period."

About being homosexual but now it's completely fine.
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2/3rds of all newly reported cases involve homosexual intercourse. Whilst there may be a higher absolute number of straight people with HIV Aids as a percentage of overall population it is tiny ie in the states where 4% of the population (homosexuals) contribute to 74%+ reported aids cases. It's an epidemic because they can't seem to grasp the concept of safe sex. That is dangerous.
 
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I know we're so far down the rabbit hole that this thread has become a self-parody of itself but boy oh boy does it help you define those posters whose views seem reasonable and those who seem bat**** crazy less reasonable.

I think that this thread, the Hillary/Trump car crash one in SC, and the death penalty thread would show absolute correlation of views for most individual posters across those threads and whilst that is perhaps not overly surprising, it does provide me with some certainty over if not morally integrity certainly moral reciprocity.
 
[FnG]magnolia;30151541 said:
I know we're so far down the rabbit hole that this thread has become a self-parody of itself but boy oh boy does it help you define those posters whose views seem reasonable and those who seem bat**** crazy less reasonable.

I think that this thread, the Hillary/Trump car crash one in SC, and the death penalty thread would show absolute correlation of views for most individual posters across those threads and whilst that is perhaps not overly surprising, it does provide me with some certainty over if not morally integrity certainly moral reciprocity.
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Do you ever contribute to any discussion, or do you just like to pop in, mock everybody's intelligence (or viewpoint), then leave?

Rhetorical question. There is no evidence for the former.
 
vincent1989 said:
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I've remained completely consistent on this point and made it as simple as possible but I'll repeat it again for you:

Oldest: no homo, mosaic law
Old: old law fulfilled
Not so old: no homo

I don't think that's irrational or contradictory unless you wilfully conflate the mosiac law with others of God's commandments. Presumably if you think the whole of the Law presented in the OT is fulfilled it's now fine to kill, commit adultery, worship false idols, steal and so on. But of course that's ridiculous.
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I think it's ridiculous. But I'm not the one saying that the whole bible is absolute authority. You are.

You're also moving the goalposts from everything in the bible to one interpretation of a few lines in the bible. You're consistent on those few lines, yes, but consistency is impossible for the whole thing.

Who claimed it was perfect?
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You claimed it was the literal word of your god, every single word of it.

You are denigrating people more brilliant than yourself, why do you seem to hold them to any higher standard than that of modern day scholars who arguably all have an agenda and are seeking to peddle their own politics and philosophies?
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You're making stuff up to suit yourself. Don't attach my name to it. I haven't done any of those things you made up in that paragraph.
 
Tosno said:
Another of your rubbish anti-Christian opinions. Anglicans will know that the Authorised Version is poetic and eternal. Of course anti-Christians like yourself will *rubbish* it and say the Sid James Bible is no less eternal, because your agenda is the extirpation of this mighty cultural treasure, in the course of 50 years, has proceeded almost uninterrupted. Even celebrations of its 400th anniversary did not halt or reverse this process.
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I'll take the bait because I am slightly bored.

Can you point out any connection at all between my post and your "reply" to it? I don't see one.

Can you explain why you think a translation of text written in several ancient languages into 16th century English is eternal but a translation of the same text into English from any other period of time is not?

It's certainly true that I would prefer religion to not exist. But that has nothing to do with my post disagreeing with the idea that 16th century English is eternal while English from every other period of time is not. If you can explain why you think 16th century English is eternal while English from every other period of time isn't, do so and I'll read it.
 
RDM said:
The vast majority of HIV transmission done in the world is via heterosexual sexual relations.
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Lets not forget what can only be described as wholesale wickedness in relation to the nonsense preached by the religious to some of the worlds poorest populations which demonises contraception/condoms leading to the transmission of HIV and STD's.

And the stupidity of some male societies which promulgate the myth that sleeping with a virgin cures AIDS.

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https://youtu.be/JI5vJ1HEL6g
 
FoxEye said:
Do you ever contribute to any discussion, or do you just like to pop in, mock everybody's intelligence (or viewpoint), then leave?

Rhetorical question. There is no evidence for the former.
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I'd ignore him, he has never contributed anything to this forum.
Even with that post he hasn't said which side he is on and who is reasonable and who isn't.
We have to guess.
 
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