Ballistix 184pin pc4000 2x1gb dicontinued

teggs said:
you need to set the ram to 250mhz at 3-4-4-8 2t and if it fails that then it can be replaced
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THanks Teggs; I'll give it a go and see how they fly.

Memtest recommended as the best memory testing software?

CHeers
 
sniper007 said:
Yeah but whos going to buy them and I will still make a loss as would have to sell them cheaper than etailers.
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you are forgeting about the 1000s of idiots there are at certain auction sites!! some guy is selling them for £225 lol!!
i bet you could get £150 for a sealed bag 2gb kit, a loss i know but not too bad. i certainly will be avoiding crucial in future all tho my current kit is holding out on me!

i am also disapointed that OCUK are still selling them! cos if they go wrong then you have to except an inferior replacement
 
teggs said:
@Minstadave : aren't you also pumping 3v through them?!


maybe someone at Crucial kindly farted in the bag before sealing it!! sorry crude i know but i giggled while projecting a mental image of it!!


you need to set the ram to 250mhz at 3-4-4-8 2t and if it fails that then it can be replaced
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Surely it has to pass memtest at 1T?

sniper007 said:
Im getting fed up with this now. Because I did not buy from Crucial Direct, I cannot have a full refund!!! They have offered me PC3200 2 x 1gb kit (not what I spend my original £200+ on with less performance). They say that they still have stock to replace this range for returns etc. When I dsicussed with the lady there at Crucial she gave the old story that they have only been discontinued due to concentrating on DDR2 and other ranges. She said it quite nervously as well when I brought up reliability issues. I explained that I dont want to keep having to RMA all the time and that this is unacceptable. Basically the jist of it is, accept an exchange for something else to the same or less value (there is nothing obviously with the same performance that is a 2x1gb kit) or get a full refund ONLY IF YOU BOUGHT FROM CRUCIAL DIRECT.
So now, I get to keep replacing my poor ram every time it starts to fail with Crucial or get a less expensive replacement, or RMA and make a loss selling a brand new kit that nobody will want to buy for the same reason.

What can OCUK do about this for me considering I bought it from them? At the end of the day this is unacceptable and I dont want to keep doing this until they run out of DIMMS and then I HAVE to get a replacement rubbish set. I have heard of people on like their 4th set of DIMMS and they are still failing. How can you get out of this without losing money? I just want some reliable 2x1gb ram that clocks to 265mhz without failing at the end of the day. Well...even 250mhz would be nice at stock settings which they dont even do when they start to fail.


POOR
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Very valid point. After forking out nearly £200 and finding ourselves effectively out of pocket, I can't help but feeling bitter.
 
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sniper007 said:
Yeah but whos going to buy them and I will still make a loss as would have to sell them cheaper than etailers.

I originally bought the ram back in November time. Then I RMA'd around December I think. Now having to RMA again. I may contact OCUK yeah but I think the reply would be that all warranty issues with Crucial ram are dealt with my crucial direct bla bla bla.
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Your contract of sale is with the retailer themselves and not the manufacturer and they (the retailer) cannot simply "get themselves out" of their legal responsibilities to you the customer. With anything you buy (even things with a so called "direct RMA service") from any retailer - it is always the retailer's responsibility to deal with warranties and returns and you shouldn't let them tell you otherwise.
Whilst I understand that sometimes people may argue it is more convenient for both parties if the customer goes direct to the retailer there are very good reasons why it is never a good idea. ;)

The problem in your case is of course that you have already accepted a replacement from Crucial thus the ram you currently have is not the specific original ram as sold by OcUK so I am not entirely sure where this leaves you.

Fortunately in my case I purchased my Ballisitix ram direct through Crucial so when mine started failing last week I got them to give me a full refund - took a little bit of complaining at them to even get that though - at first they wanted to replace it and then even had the cheek to offer a refund minus 20% for "restocking". It wasn't until I carefully pointed out that I was fully entitled to a full refund that they eventually agreed.
Personally I probably won't even be using Crucial again after the way they have handled this whole mess - they clearly have a faulty product out there which they should really be recalling. I'm suprised the class-action suits haven't already started in the US. :p
 
I have always been a Crucial fan but this stuff doesn't seem to be as good a buy as I originaly thought! :mad:

I can only hope that my new sticks don't go faulty (seems that most do)! :(

I have 2 Gig of Crucial standard memory which does 250 @ 3,3,3,6! This is the same as this relatively expensive Ballistix :confused: The only difference seems to be that my current Ballistix does 1T and the standard stuff doesn't. :rolleyes: Not so good for the money?
 
Ok so far I have memory set at 3-4-4-10, 2.8 volts, 2T, 250 Mhz and after 4 hours and 20 mins of memtest86 this is what's showing:



Not good with all those errors? Faulty ram?

Was going to run it longer but wife went and pressed esc trying to get to watch Eastenders...=)
 
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Thank you BW.

I have just been told by OCUK regarding faulty goods is, and I quote: " The distance selling act states that you are entitled for a full refund after 7 - 10 working days from when the goods are received. We can offer you a replacement if they are found to be faulty."

So does that mean I have to get the exact same memory replacement?

Thanks
 
Slap said:
Thank you BW.

I have just been told by OCUK regarding faulty goods is, and I quote: " The distance selling act states that you are entitled for a full refund after 7 - 10 working days from when the goods are received. We can offer you a replacement if they are found to be faulty."

So does that mean I have to get the exact same memory replacement?

Thanks
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Yeah what they mean is, the distance selling act is there for you to protect you and allow for a full refund if it is within the 7-10 days. If it is after this period then they would only provide a replacement and yes it would be the exact same kit.
 
Slap said:
Thank you BW.

I have just been told by OCUK regarding faulty goods is, and I quote: " The distance selling act states that you are entitled for a full refund after 7 - 10 working days from when the goods are received. We can offer you a replacement if they are found to be faulty."

So does that mean I have to get the exact same memory replacement?

Thanks
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The distance selling regulations have nothing to do with faulty goods and the ability to get a refund. Some useful advice can be found here.
 
DSA is for cancelling the contract within 7-10days if you find that the goods are not what you expected (basically) and you have not opened/used them. This is a right to cancel the contract for mail order goods within this time frame for whatever reason basically, brought in through a European directive to protect the consumer.

As in the case of Sniper007 - so what did Crucial replace your RAM with? When did you buy it? More details please... :).

I would say the situation where you have a like for like replacement for your RAM from Crucial still allows you to retain the OcUK Warranty. For example, WD HDU's or DFI Motherboards all have a note saying RMA direct - now, retailers cannot contract out of statute and can still demand a replacement from them. Thus if you had a replacement from DFI or WD, you can still within the 12 months get a replacement from the retailer as they actively practise this. I don't know, but it seems like a good argument to me.
 
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hehe another thread about the constant failures of Crucial ram... Mine gave up totally today (those may recall from other threads where i been slowly loosing mhz and latencies over the past month or so).

I sent a rather annoyed letter to them today, and i wonder what there reply will be:

Letter to Crucial replying to previous RMA said:
Dear Crucial.

These replacements from my RMA back in November the 25th have now also failed.

When I first received these replacement chips, I followed recommendations from people posting in two threads at www.overclockers.co.uk forums (regarding Ballistix failures, 6361 views, 277 replies) saying to keep the voltages down and to keep them cool. I had a 70mm 4000rpm fan directly pointing at them. I also set them up for 2.7volts, 3-4-4-8, running at 240MHz, so operating at a slight under-volt and under-clock also.

By the end of January I couldn’t even run them at default timings of 3-3-3-8 at 200MHz. 240-250MHz wouldn’t even post with ANY settings. I managed to run the memory at 3-4-4-8 and 2.8volts until now, however the computer will no longer post at all.

The memory chips seem to have slowly degraded over the last 3 months, each time I had to increase the latencies or add more voltage to solve problems. Again, my chips have finally run out of life. Much the same for my other 10 chips (5 pairs) I’ve had fail.

Putting in some PC2700 Corsair solves the problem, from which I can post my system, and reboot without any start-up issues.

I no longer wish to have replacements for my failed RAM as I’m fed up with constantly having to replace them. I am also fed up with having to actively cool them, and have my case open to keep them cool. If my X2 4800 and GeForce 7800GTX can cope in a closed case why shouldn’t the memory?

Over the past 3 years I’ve had 3 pairs of PC3200 (2 x 512MB) fail and 2 pairs of PC4000 (2 x 1GB) fail. I was refused a replacement refund/RMA on my 3rd set of PC3200 for some unknown reason, even though they have lifetime warranty.

The PC4000 DIMMS have these codes:

DIMM 1: CL1115Y.NZ, 56278
DIMM 2: CL1115Y.NZ, 56278

The PC3200 DIMMS (failed in September) have these codes:

DIMM 1: CL1115J.Z3, 58092
DIMM 2: CL1115K.9J, 58092

I have also noticed that you have stopped selling 1GB modules which is interesting to say the least. Is there problems with High density chips or something?

I would appreciate an explanation to my concerned above as soon as possible please.

Many thanks

Adam Webb – Overlag
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Overlag said:
Again, my chips have finally run out of life. Much the same for my other 10 chips (5 pairs) I’ve had fail
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Jeez I can imagine that you must be real peaved :mad:

Are you sure you don't have a mutant motherboard or a radioactive PSU or something?

Have you tried another brand or memory for any length of time in your system? something sounds seriously fubared!!!
 
I'm going to start another thread as this is getting a bit off topic and, as usual with Ballistix, a tad negative :p

The new thread is asking for any POSITIVE comment to make me a little less apprehensive about my RMA set failing :eek:

Please come and post, especialy if it's positive comment :D
 
After a couple hours testing the memory through Memtest86 at 3-4-4-10, 250mhz, 2T, 2.8V :



And for 10 mins at 3-4-4-10, 200mhz, 2T, 2.8V(recommended stock default by Crucial):




I am pretty new at memory testing and, although I did not run it for long , I think the signs do not look good to me.


Any comments would be welcome.
 
Slap said:
After a couple hours testing the memory through Memtest86 at 3-4-4-10, 250mhz, 2T, 2.8V :



And for 10 mins at 3-4-4-10, 200mhz, 2T, 2.8V(recommended stock default by Crucial):




I am pretty new at memory testing and, although I did not run it for long , I think the signs do not look good to me.


Any comments would be welcome.
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My word, the second one hasn't even had one pass!!!
 
Big.Wayne said:
Jeez I can imagine that you must be real peaved :mad:

Are you sure you don't have a mutant motherboard or a radioactive PSU or something?

Have you tried another brand or memory for any length of time in your system? something sounds seriously fubared!!!
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well 2 pairs failed in an Asus A8V. and 3 failed in an Asus A8N. The Asus A8N system being *ALL* new except for soundcard and harddrive.

yeah ive tested other ram..... every 2-4months ive had to use it since i had no crucial :p
 
My sticks wen't back to OcUK last week,sent them a mail & they are going to swap them for a different brand for me :D This is my 3rd set of 2gb ballistix in 2 months :mad: :mad:

My rig is running perfectly now with a single 512mb of generic ram .

These sticks have been an absolute nightmare,wished i'd never laid eyes on them :eek:

Rob
 
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