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On the news they say the same ship hit a pier a few years ago in Antwerp in calm waters in the daytime.
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Pay peanuts get monkeys. Everything is a race to the bottom these days.
Soldato
I wonder if it’s still the same Captain and senior officers.
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I'll be honest, I have no idea how common/uncommon these things are. In both cases though surely port authority pilots would have been onboard?
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The Pilot can only give the crew orders. If the crew don’t or can’t follow them (whether through incompetence or mechanical issues) despite the pilot yelling at them, there’s not a lot he/she can do about it.
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A very fair point.
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These ships are not "piloted" they are largely autonomous, the course is plotted and the ship navigates on its own, very little manual navigation is done, even less so on vessels this large.
If the ship lost power multiple times, navigation would have failed or the ability for the ship to correct its course would be why it hit the bridge.
Look at how large its turning circle is to leave the port, your talking almost a kilometre to just turn. So just a few seconds of navigation failure would have been enough considering its heading, speed and the sheer mass of the vessel.
If the ship lost power multiple times, navigation would have failed or the ability for the ship to correct its course would be why it hit the bridge.
Look at how large its turning circle is to leave the port, your talking almost a kilometre to just turn. So just a few seconds of navigation failure would have been enough considering its heading, speed and the sheer mass of the vessel.
That does sound like the most plausible explanation tbh... some sort of electrical failure and the crew sadly losing control of the ship/rudder and unable to divert after regaining power.
Other explanations on twitter of course are:
Chinese hackers
Terrorists
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From the news conference on now, it's just a good job it happened at night and not at rush hour or in the day
AFAIK they will still make use of pilots as the posters mentioned above, that they're largely autonomous doesn't necessarily negate having a little boat sent out with a local "pilot" to navigate in various ports or through specific narrow areas etc..
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Where obstacles such as that bridge are involved they'd still likely have a pilot on board or, if a regular visitor then the crew may be allowed to pilot it themselves.
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Been part of an investigation because of precisely this. Pilot said steer starboard, crew went port.
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Woke up to this... not good. What a terrifying scenario to play out. This is normally stuff that we would see happen in China/Russia etc. What a mess.
1) Loss of life, vehicles in water
2) Port is basically closed I assume, so this will have knock on effects. (Obviously this isn't a 'sensitive' comment).
1) Loss of life, vehicles in water
2) Port is basically closed I assume, so this will have knock on effects. (Obviously this isn't a 'sensitive' comment).
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A crew member trying to pilot a vessel that's moving at 7-8 knots with a mass in excess of 250,000 tonnes, when power fails is basically like trying to push a 44 tonne container by hand. It ain't happening.
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been following this, no stopping that huge ship.
good job it was not in the day rush hour.
R.I.P to those and the missing which i imagine will end up being more.
good job it was not in the day rush hour.
R.I.P to those and the missing which i imagine will end up being more.
I use the Prince song. Little red port left. Easy!
Soldato
Watching the video there was quite abit of traffic crossing you see the cars going left and right.
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So more details starting to come.
Vessel tried to slow its forward heading by backing down, they had deployed the aft anchor as seen in some helicopter footage which appears to have been dragged along trying to slow down. The issue is when a vessel this large backs down being a single prop ship, they tend to career off course.
There were no tug boats nearby to assist, in the 3-4 minutes it took for the vessel to go off course and hit the bridge. The had contacted the port and notified them of an emergency on board.
Vessel tried to slow its forward heading by backing down, they had deployed the aft anchor as seen in some helicopter footage which appears to have been dragged along trying to slow down. The issue is when a vessel this large backs down being a single prop ship, they tend to career off course.
There were no tug boats nearby to assist, in the 3-4 minutes it took for the vessel to go off course and hit the bridge. The had contacted the port and notified them of an emergency on board.
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Soldato
I saw a couple of videos from a channel What is going on with shipping? (Which seems like a good channel) and it showed they were slowing.
Reading the comments… :/ I weep for mankind.
Reading the comments… :/ I weep for mankind.
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