Barb sizes?

if I go for the 7/16 Masterkleer, then what pump should I go for. The 12V Laing DDC1+ Ultra 18W i was looking at looks like it's only compatible with 3/8" ID Hose?
 
You will need to buy an aftermarket top for it such as the alphacool, it then accepts G1/4-1/2" barbs and gives a nice performance boost:)
 
will try huddy what size case do you have and would you/could you mod it to fit a larger rad :)

also is it just for the cpu or do you plan on adding the gpu and chipsets of the mobo
 
The case is big enough for WC with a few mods. That said, I can fit a tripple rad but not two doubles. I'm not sure if this is going to be a problem for cooling the CPU and GPU.
 
A PA 120.3 will cool both a quad and a GPU with little problems.

Pump
DDC ultra 18w with Alphacool top
Radiator
Thermochill PA 120.3
CPU Block
D-Tek fusion CPU block
GPU Block
EK waterblock for your card
Fans
3x Yate loon D12 SL12 fans
Tubing
8' MasterKleer 7/16
Reservoir
Any that takes your liking. I prefer drive bay res's and the XSPC ones are very good.
Additives
2 ltrs Distilled/Deionised water
PT Nuke
Misc
Tie wraps or jubilee clips for tubing

Hope this helps.
 
that's great and yes a big help.

what size barbs - 1/2"?

Is the Aplacool top the aftermarket top? - (edit) found what you mean.. :)
 
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Yeah stick to 1/2" barbs. First ever wc setup i did I used 1/2" tubing as well. The 7/16th stuff makes a big difference as the wall thickness is also often slimmer meaning its more controllable in its ability to flex and curve.
 
w3bbo said:
Pump
DDC ultra 18w with Alphacool top
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Just out if interest why do you recommend the Alphacool top over the EK, XSPC or Petras?

The components you spec'd out are all very low restriction ones (Fuzion and PA120.3)... I don't know if you have already seen it but have a read of this, especially the Performance Ranking Table.

http://www.martinsliquidlab.com/DDC32PumpTopTesting.html

Low Restriction System
XSPC Reservoir Top
XSPC Standard Top
EK X-Top G1/4
Koolance Top
Petra's DDCT-01s Top
EK XRes-140 Reservoir Top
Danger Den DDC Top
Alphacool Top
Alphacool Reservoir Top
Stock Top
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The Alphacool top is essestially the worst choice of top for a low restriction loop. :confused:
 
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marcus000 said:
Just out if interest why do you recommend the Alphacool top over the EK, XSPC or Petras?

The components you spec'd out are all very low restriction ones (Fuzion and PA120.3)... I don't know if you have already seen it but have a read of this, especially the Performance Ranking Table.

http://www.martinsliquidlab.com/DDC32PumpTopTesting.html



The Alphacool top is essestially the worst choice of top for a low restriction loop. :confused:
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With a PA120.3, D-tek and also a GPU block in the same loop it won't be so 'unrestrictive'.

There have been reports of DDC's dying with the petras tops, could be down to a dodgy pump batch or poorly made tops - I don't know but I have had ddc's with the AC tops for a few years now and not once have they failed me, with performance being fantastic so why would I change? I can't comment on the other tops as I havn't used them and hence why I can't recommend them - I simply refuse to recommend stuff I aint used and count vouch for.

Add to that the flexability of mounting options the AC top has without the need to buy additional mounting brackets and the slight loss in performance (which will hardly effect temperatures anyway in a low resriction loop as I'm sure you know) is an agreeable offset if it means I can mount the pumps out of the way in a HD bay instead of just abandoning them on a gel pad wherever is convienient or buying separate mounting brackets.

However, if you wanna send me some xspc or EK tops from the shop I'll happily give em a trial run;).
 
I think there was an issue with the 1st batch of Petras tops and a previous model of the DDC, can't remember the figures off the top of my head. The impeller was basically hitting agaist the top causing them to die eventually, as far as I know this has been solved a long long time ago.

The Thermo rad and the Fuzion are essentially 2 of the least restrictive / high performance componets in water cooling at the moment, the addition of a GPU isn't gonna suddenly turn it into a high restriction loop.

I'm not saying that huge increases are gonna take place just by changing pump tops, it was a mere observation at the time. I'm well aware that your not exactly a noob at WC... probably far from it judging from your sig rig. I'm not here to provoke arguemnts, think of it as topical discussion! :p
Personally I find the Alphacool top way more bulky than what it needs to be, mainly down to the fact they made it an option to mount in a drive bay.
For that reason, I always tend to go for XSPC, EK or in my current rig I am using the original OC Labs top (not the crappy injection moulded ones they sell now)

Maybe if you contact a shop they might send you one for a trial run...I dunno.
Bearing in mind I dont run a watercooling shop, I can't exactly send you free stuff can I? :)
I may appear to be affilated with a couple of places but I am by no means financially involed.
 
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Lol, I wasn't arguing with you m8, you asked for my reasons and I gave them, not saying they are right or wrong, just my opinions. Its great seeing different points of view, after all thats what forums are all about;).
I might give the EK tops a go with my new build as I like the delrin and they are more suited to the EK Supreme but for now the AC tops will suffice :

Tiger Style

Sorry for assuming you were involved with a WC shop - I must have you mixed up with someone else;).
 
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